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Old 12-03-2010, 11:41 PM
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so whats the problem then? Pacquiao just cut the weight to your natural weight class 140 and marquez could come in just little over his current weight of 135


I thought Manny Pacquiao was a true warrior and hero of Asia if it doesn't matter to him then why be a ***** about it ?
True warriors fight bigger guys!! Pac already fought JMM & Beat him!! Pac's fighting bigger guys and destroying them!! If JMM wants to fight, he needs Fight Pac at his weight!!
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Old 12-04-2010, 12:08 AM
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Old 12-04-2010, 12:13 AM
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what natural weight class?

why would pac bend down to marquez & do him a favor? pac holds all the cards & leverage.

If marquez thinks he's so much more superior than pac & beat him twice, what's the problem with 147?

MARQUEZ HIMSELF ALREADY SAYS HE HAS NO PROBLEM FACING PAC AT WELTER.

you wanna know why?

because he has faced him 2x as a welter already & did well.

marquez doesnt have a problem, yet you do?


who said Marquez doesnt have a problem with it? did you watch Marquez vs katsidis post fight he said point blank there is no reason why they can't do the fight at 140 or at least at a catchweight



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True warriors fight bigger guys!! Pac already fought JMM & Beat him!! Pac's fighting bigger guys and destroying them!! If JMM wants to fight, he needs Fight Pac at his weight!!
bigger guys give Manny his catchweight but the true warrior wont give the lightweight one instead he needs to come in at Mannyweight
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Old 12-04-2010, 12:13 AM
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If this fight is going to happen at all, it needs to happen at 140. And if Pac is going back to 140, he should prioritize the Bradley-Alexander winner over a 3rd fight with Marquez. Those guys have a rematch clause, but if the outcome is decisive, I doubt the winner would refuse a Pac fight to make the rematch immediate. If that winner isn't available, go ahead and do it then. But this fight means nothing at WW.
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Old 12-04-2010, 12:32 AM
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how about you post the fight night weights of clottey, cotto, margarito, & hatton?




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who said Marquez doesnt have a problem with it? did you watch Marquez vs katsidis post fight he said point blank there is no reason why they can't do the fight at 140 or at least at a catchweight



bigger guys give Manny his catchweight but the true warrior wont give the lightweight one instead he needs to come in at Mannyweight

you did. as well as the rest of the pathetic ass *****s. didnt you just say why cant manny drop down in weight from welter?

did you not read my whole opening post? there's no difference what weight they fight in. marquez in 2 fights vs pac has fought pac when pac was weighing in at welter.

when did 147 become manny weight?
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Old 12-04-2010, 12:50 AM
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You're missing the point. The "fight night" weight is irrelevant. If the "fight night" weight had any relevance, Manny would have asked for "fight night" catchweights instead of weigh-in catchweights. The process of having to take weight off during training camp takes away something from a fighter, which is why Manny did it to Cotto and Marg. And its exactly why he refuses to do it against JMM even though JMM is smaller.


Besides, since Manny has weighed in around 144 or so for his last 4 fights, why not do the fight at 142? It's only 2 pounds, right??? Isn't that what all the *******s said about the 145 Cotto catchweight?? Its only 2 pounds......

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how about you post the fight night weights of clottey, cotto, margarito, & hatton?







you did. as well as the rest of the pathetic ass *****s. didnt you just say why cant manny drop down in weight from welter?

did you not read my whole opening post? there's no difference what weight they fight in. marquez in 2 fights vs pac has fought pac when pac was weighing in at welter.

when did 147 become manny weight?

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Old 12-04-2010, 01:22 AM
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You're missing the point. The "fight night" weight is irrelevant. If the "fight night" weight had any relevance, Manny would have asked for "fight night" catchweights instead of weigh-in catchweights. The process of having to take weight off during training camp takes away something from a fighter, which is why Manny did it to Cotto and Marg. And its exactly why he refuses to do it against JMM even though JMM is smaller.


Besides, since Manny has weighed in around 144 or so for his last 4 fights, why not do the fight at 142? It's only 2 pounds, right??? Isn't that what all the *******s said about the 145 Cotto catchweight?? Its only 2 pounds......
stop acting like a pretentious physician with tons of research & development behind your weight drained blah blah 1 or 2lb catchweight hurts a fighter crap.

catchweights are irrelevant due to the 24 rehydration period. i cant stand people who act as if they have medical data that upholds their stupid ass weight drained talking point.

catchweights were made to prevent cancellation of title fights. NOT BECAUSE OF MEDICAL MALFEASANCE.

Pernell whitaker was made to use a catchweight vs chavez.

Bernard hopkins also was made to "drain" vs oscar.

So was terry norris vs meldrick taylor.

More recently, sergio was "weight drained"" because of the catchweight vs paul williams.

How did those fights turn out? how did those "weight drained" fighters do?


YOU PRETENTIOUS FAKE ASS CATCHWEIGHT WEIGHT DRAINED DOCTORS DONT HAVE A ****ING POINT TO MISS.
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Old 12-04-2010, 01:31 AM
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so if its your contention that being weight drained is a myth, please explain manny's refusal to do the JMM fight at 140 or 142? And if its a myth, then why did he demand it in the cotto and marg fights? hmmmmmmmm.......




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stop acting like a pretentious physician with tons of research & development behind your weight drained blah blah 1 or 2lb catchweight hurts a fighter crap.

catchweights are irrelevant due to the 24 rehydration period. i cant stand people who act as if they have medical data that upholds their stupid ass weight drained talking point.

catchweights were made to prevent cancellation of title fights. NOT BECAUSE OF MEDICAL MALFEASANCE.

Pernell whitaker was made to use a catchweight vs chavez.

Bernard hopkins also was made to "drain" vs oscar.

So was terry norris vs meldrick taylor.

More recently, sergio was "weight drained"" because of the catchweight vs paul williams.

How did those fights turn out? how did those "weight drained" fighters do?


YOU PRETENTIOUS FAKE ASS CATCHWEIGHT WEIGHT DRAINED DOCTORS DONT HAVE A ****ING POINT TO MISS.
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Old 12-04-2010, 01:32 AM
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Think about it,

If the fight is at 140, Pac on fight night will be a welter.

If the fight is at 147, Pac on fight night will be a welter.

IF the fight is at 135, Pac on fight night will be a welter.

Even their fights at 130 & 126, Pac was coming in at the welterweight weight range. So all this bleeding b*tchassedness about the fight not being at 140, or the fight being at 147 is irrelevant.

In 4 welterweight fights (oscar, clottey,cotto, including margarito), pac cant even make welter. In his fight vs hatton, pac couldnt even make 140. A normal welterweight in today's era of 24 hr rehydration would weigh in at 147, then on fight night they would be 154 some 160 lbs on fight night.

Only exception to that rule is pac & floyd who are fighting at their proper weight. So if marquez vs pac is made at welter, there really isnt a difference if the fight was at 40 or 135. On fight night pac & marquez will be weighing the same.

Marquez doesnt have to weigh in at 147. Pac in 4 fights at 147 & up has never weighed in at 147.

In conclusion of this thorough scientific study,

there really shouldnt be no complaint if the fight is at welter since on fight night pac will weigh the same whether the fight is at 135 or 140.

Plus the fact that marquez & his minuscule fanbase keep claiming how much superior they are compared to pac there should be no problem then.







buncha piss loving cunts.
how do you know this?u think team pac is gonna let marquez come in at any weight he wants?if manny is goin to rehydrate to 147 anyway why would they care if the fight is at 140?
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Really? Last time I checked Marquez gave Arum the offer, and Arum and Pacman went for old Sugar Shane Nosley coming off 2 horrible performances.
yeah, marquez through shcaefer made an offer... 50/50 split at 140 lol
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