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Hamas would honor referendum on peace with Israel

By Nidal al-Mughrabi

GAZA | Wed Dec 1, 2010 9:35am EST

GAZA (Reuters) - The Islamist Hamas movement, whose charter advocates the elimination of Israel, would accept the outcome of a Palestinian referendum on a future peace treaty with the Jewish state, its Gaza leader said on Wednesday.

Ismail Haniyeh, addressing a rare news conference in the Israeli-blockaded enclave, signaled a softening of Hamas's long-standing position prohibiting the ceding of any part of the land of what was British-mandated Palestine until 1948.

"We accept a Palestinian state on the borders of 1967, with Jerusalem as its capital, the release of Palestinian prisoners, and the resolution of the issue of refugees," Haniyeh said, referring to the year of Middle East war in which Israel captured East Jerusalem and the Palestinian territories.

"Hamas will respect the results (of a referendum) regardless of whether it differs with its ideology and principles," he said, provided it included all Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank and the diaspora.

The Hamas charter, drafted in 1988, regards all of the land of Palestine, including what is now Israel, as the heritage of Muslims. The idea of a referendum on a future peace accord with Israel was rejected by some Hamas leaders when it was proposed by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas several months ago.

Negotiations between Abbas and Israel have since faltered over Israel's refusal to halt settlement building in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.

NO AL QAEDA HERE

Haniyeh said Israel was not willing to give the Palestinians a fully sovereign state and he therefore had no hope the fragile U.S.- brokered attempts to revive peacemaking would succeed.

He said his movement was willing to cooperate with Western and European countries "who want to help the Palestinian people regain their rights." The United States and European Union shun Hamas as a terrorist organization and do not recognize its Gaza authority.

"We urge European foreign ministers to revise their position regarding meetings with the elected government," Haniyeh said, adding that contacts were being made with United Nations officials in the Gaza Strip in this regard.

Haniyeh denied Israel's claim to have killed three members of the al Qaeda organization in Gaza in the past month.

Israel said two of three militants it killed in November were planning attacks against Israeli and western tourists in the Egyptian territory of Sinai.

He said a priority of his government was to avoid a military escalation with Israel by persuading other militant factions to preserve a de facto ceasefire.

Hamas had repeatedly distanced itself from al Qaeda and had not hesitated to condemn al Qaeda-claimed attacks in some Arab and western capitals, he noted.

(Editing by Douglas Hamilton and Samia Nakhoul)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6B02ND20101201
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Hamas would honor referendum on peace with Israel

By Nidal al-Mughrabi

GAZA | Wed Dec 1, 2010 9:35am EST

GAZA (Reuters) - The Islamist Hamas movement, whose charter advocates the elimination of Israel, would accept the outcome of a Palestinian referendum on a future peace treaty with the Jewish state, its Gaza leader said on Wednesday.

Ismail Haniyeh, addressing a rare news conference in the Israeli-blockaded enclave, signaled a softening of Hamas's long-standing position prohibiting the ceding of any part of the land of what was British-mandated Palestine until 1948.

"We accept a Palestinian state on the borders of 1967, with Jerusalem as its capital, the release of Palestinian prisoners, and the resolution of the issue of refugees," Haniyeh said, referring to the year of Middle East war in which Israel captured East Jerusalem and the Palestinian territories.

"Hamas will respect the results (of a referendum) regardless of whether it differs with its ideology and principles," he said, provided it included all Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank and the diaspora.

The Hamas charter, drafted in 1988, regards all of the land of Palestine, including what is now Israel, as the heritage of Muslims. The idea of a referendum on a future peace accord with Israel was rejected by some Hamas leaders when it was proposed by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas several months ago.

Negotiations between Abbas and Israel have since faltered over Israel's refusal to halt settlement building in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.

NO AL QAEDA HERE

Haniyeh said Israel was not willing to give the Palestinians a fully sovereign state and he therefore had no hope the fragile U.S.- brokered attempts to revive peacemaking would succeed.

He said his movement was willing to cooperate with Western and European countries "who want to help the Palestinian people regain their rights." The United States and European Union shun Hamas as a terrorist organization and do not recognize its Gaza authority.

"We urge European foreign ministers to revise their position regarding meetings with the elected government," Haniyeh said, adding that contacts were being made with United Nations officials in the Gaza Strip in this regard.

Haniyeh denied Israel's claim to have killed three members of the al Qaeda organization in Gaza in the past month.

Israel said two of three militants it killed in November were planning attacks against Israeli and western tourists in the Egyptian territory of Sinai.

He said a priority of his government was to avoid a military escalation with Israel by persuading other militant factions to preserve a de facto ceasefire.

Hamas had repeatedly distanced itself from al Qaeda and had not hesitated to condemn al Qaeda-claimed attacks in some Arab and western capitals, he noted.

(Editing by Douglas Hamilton and Samia Nakhoul)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6B02ND20101201
This is very promising news, an olive branch extended by the people who have been most opposed to peace!
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This is very promising news, an olive branch extended by the people who have been most opposed to peace!
Somehow I find it dubious. But, if Israel and Palestine are okay with it and can now get on without this bull****, good.
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:36 PM
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Somehow I find it dubious. But, if Israel and Palestine are okay with it and can now get on without this bull****, good.
This is worth more than a hundred blockade running activists. Genuine conciliatory gestures like this one from Hamas are the biggest steps to peace and peace is the only thing that will rescue Palestine from their predicament.
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Hamas would honor referendum on peace with Israel

By Nidal al-Mughrabi

GAZA | Wed Dec 1, 2010 9:35am EST

GAZA (Reuters) - "Hamas will respect the results (of a referendum) regardless of whether it differs with its ideology and principles," he said, provided it included all Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank and the diaspora.

The Hamas charter, drafted in 1988, regards all of the land of Palestine, including what is now Israel, as the heritage of Muslims. The idea of a referendum on a future peace accord with Israel was rejected by some Hamas leaders when it was proposed by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas several months ago.


http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6B02ND20101201
In essence, "We still do not like you buuuuuuuuuuut, it serves our interests to put those issues aside...for now."
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Old 12-01-2010, 12:41 PM
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In essence, "We still do not like you buuuuuuuuuuut, it serves our interests to put those issues aside...for now."
It doesn't really matter what the motivations are. What matters is that moves are being made.

It's one sign that Hamas are losing the war with Israel though.
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Remembering Saudi ties with Al Qaeda, I think the Wikileak that highlighted Arabs were cajoling the US into attacking Iran (a backer of Hamas and Hizbollah) has a lot to do with this.

It seems a bit of smoke has cleared on Arab dealings.
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Remembering Saudi ties with Al Qaeda, I think the Wikileak that highlighted Arabs were cajoling the US into attacking Iran (a backer of Hamas and Hizbollah) has a lot to do with this.

It seems a bit of smoke has cleared on Arab dealings.
True. I suspect that Iran have their finger in multiple pies though.
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It doesn't really matter what the motivations are. What matters is that moves are being made.

It's one sign that Hamas are losing the war with Israel though.
I would agree with both statements.
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True. I suspect that Iran have their finger in multiple pies though.
I'm interested. Anything I wouldn't find obvious like Shia militia in Iraq?

They did help forge the US partnership with the Northern Alliance in Aghanistan.
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