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Old 11-28-2010, 11:31 AM
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Americans deserve the benefit of the doubt because they have proven themselves over and over and over again.

What has Europe proven? I'm sorry, but you lose all credibility when you hype Arthur Abraham as one of your best fighters.
LMAO! If Europe loses credibility for hyping Abraham than America should have no credibility whatsoever for hyping Jeff Lacy or Chad Dawson.
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Old 11-28-2010, 11:33 AM
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LMAO! If Europe loses credibility for hyping Abraham than America should have no credibility whatsoever for hyping Jeff Lacy or Chad Dawson.
Chad Dawson will be back.

For every Jeff Lacy, Europe has 20 Kevin Mitchells.
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Old 11-28-2010, 11:34 AM
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andre ward : beat miranda, kessler, green and bika.


maybe losing 3 or 4 rounds in the process.
Miranda and Green are terrible. Straight bums. Bika went life and death with Jaidon Codrington and was abused in a shutout by Bute but won 3 or 4 rounds against Ward. Kessler is the only win worth anything at all on Ward's resume, and if Kessler nothing more than a good fighter, than what has Ward done?
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Old 11-28-2010, 11:35 AM
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Chad Dawson will be back.

For every Jeff Lacy, Europe has 20 Kevin Mitchells.
lol, not even you believe this. Chad Dawson, the ex-future P4P king now relegated to the garbage heap after he was beaten up by Carl Froch's leftovers, is going to make a comeback? We'll see about that.
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Old 11-28-2010, 11:39 AM
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Miranda and Green are terrible. Straight bums. Bika went life and death with Jaidon Codrington and was abused in a shutout by Bute but won 3 or 4 rounds against Ward. Kessler is the only win worth anything at all on Ward's resume, and if Kessler nothing more than a good fighter, than what has Ward done?
Answer: dominated a good fighter.
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Old 11-28-2010, 11:41 AM
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Answer: dominated a good fighter.
And that is enough to get you as high as top 4-10 P4P? Just dominating a good fighter? The P4P lists are going to get really crowded if that's all it takes.
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Old 11-28-2010, 12:04 PM
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He sucks. The only reason he got hyped up so bad is because Calzaghe's resume was so ****ty his fans only had the Kessler fight to cling to. Fact!
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Old 11-28-2010, 12:07 PM
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And that is enough to get you as high as top 4-10 P4P? Just dominating a good fighter? The P4P lists are going to get really crowded if that's all it takes.
But it's more than Kessler has.

How did Hatton get a p4p slot? Or Pavlik?

That's how it works nowadays, my friend. If people like "the look" of you, and you validate that with a good win, they vote you in.
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Old 11-28-2010, 12:09 PM
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Look at who he beat

Siaca (ex champ)
Beyer (champ)
Mundine (ex champ)
Lucas (ex champ)
Andrade
Sartison (champ)
Froch (champ

only losses to an ATG - Calzaghe and a future one, Ward.
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Old 11-28-2010, 12:09 PM
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But it's more than Kessler has.

How did Hatton get a p4p slot? Or Pavlik?

That's how it works nowadays, my friend. If people like "the look" of you, and you validate that with a good win, they vote you in.
Kessler was never on P4P lists. Hatton got on P4P lists by beating P4P number 2-3 Kostya Tzsyu. Pavlik got his slot by beating P4P top 10 Jermain Taylor. Again, Kessler was never on any P4P top 10 lists...so how did Ward get so high on P4P lists without beating a P4P fighter? I guess they just "like the look" of him, eh?
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