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Old 11-27-2010, 06:23 PM #1
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Default Would prime JMM beat Manny's last five opponents?

Oscar- Against the drained and faded Oscar that Manny beat at 147, I actually think Marquez outboxes him to a unanimous decision.

Hatton- I like Ricky, I really do, but the man was so overrated. If Marquez, instead of Manny fought him in May of 2009 at 140, he wouldn't have been knocked out, but Marquez would've made Ricky look like an amateur.

Cotto- The Cotto fight would've been mismatch in my opinion. It's also the fight that separated Manny from Marquez. Marquez is the best counter puncher not named Floyd Mayweather Jr, but he would've been knocked out by Cotto if they fought at 145.

Clottey- would be too big and strong at 147 and likely would've KO'd JMM.

Margarito- Marquez and Margarito are both Mexican, but stylistically they could not be any more different from each other. Marquez has skills, Margarito has relentlessness. That being said, I think the Margarito who fought Pacquiao would've beaten Marquez down and knocked him out.
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Old 11-27-2010, 06:25 PM #2
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all 5 of those hit a whole lot harder than Juan f'n Diaz...JMM would die
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the taste of prime jmm's urine is ATG
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Marquez outboxes Hatton and probably the zombie-like De la Hoya but Margarito and Clottey would have been too big and Cotto is not only too big, but too good. Marquez is a little sluggish above 135 and if Cotto came to fight like he did against Pacquiao, Marquez wouldn't have the power t oscare him and Cotto would stop him by the 8th.
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I see Marquez beating everyone except Clottey and Cotto also. I don't think Joshua would have been hesitant to trade with Juan and I think Cotto would have eventually overpowered Marquez (but he would have taken a fair share of punishment from Juan's counterpunching).

I honestly think that Juan is a better counterpuncher than Floyd, he would never get the chance to display this against Mayweather though as Floyd fought extremely cautious and did not mix it up with him.

But yeah, Margarito, Hatton, De La Hoya...all of them would lose to Marquez. Hatton would be knocked out in a similar style as against Mayweather, he'd run straight into a counter punch.

But then, I do wonder if Marquez would have the power to keep Margarito at bay.
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I think he would go 0-5 really. I like JMM just too small and doesnt have upper weight class power.
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those five opponents had lost 40% of their fights before manny.
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those five opponents had lost 40% of their fights before manny.
The f*ck are you talking about?

And the only fight that Marquez would have a chance of winning would've been against Hatton, and possibly Oscar. Other than that, those guys are way too big and strong for Juan Manuel. He would've been KO'd by Cotto and Tony and rendered useless by Clottey.
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Oscar will throw more punches compare to Pac fight. JMM will probably get knockdown in the first half. The 2nd half will favor JMM cuz Oscar is getting tired. JMM by closed UD or split decision.

I don't think Hatton will get his way with JMM. JMM either by wide UD or late KO.

Cotto has speed and power and it will hurt JMM. Cotto by TKO(ref stoppage or towel of Nacho).

Clottey is not a KO artist but his size and speed will dominate JMM. Clottey by UD.

Margarito has a good chin and even was able to hurt Pac. Marg was also doing OK with the jab. If JMM is corner, he will fight back just like the Diaz figth but his facing a bigger guy and Juan will take damage. Margarito by TKO, ref stoppage or Nacho throwing in the towel.

Even at his prime, JMM by going up to WW division will slow him down.

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those five opponents had lost 40% of their fights before manny.
LOL, yeah if you combined all their fights and their losses. But if you put them individually, then it would be diffirent percentage.
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