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Old 11-24-2010, 03:23 PM #21
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Pac should have told us from the start that he just wanted the fight to make history. At least RJJR told us that....

Also, cmon, jumping from cruiserweight to heavyweight is a bigger jump than welterweight to LMW
It was Light heavyweight to Heavyweight.
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Old 11-24-2010, 03:23 PM #22
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When did I say that?
you agreed to the other guy about ruiz-jones being a legit heavyweight championship fight which I agree on. jones won, doesn't that make him a legit heavyweight champ? in your opinion why didn't Roy defend his belt there?
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you agreed to the other guy about ruiz-jones being a legit heavyweight championship which I agree on. jones won, doesn't that make him a legit heavyweight champ? in your opinion why didn't Roy defend his belt there?
I think you should read the overall gist of his point. You need to think a little more critically here. But to answer your question, because he would've gotten his butt kicked.
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I mean after all, Jones did win a heavyweight title right? He moved up in weight, beat John Ruiz, then, like the coward he is, went back down in weight, rather than fight Lennox Lewis. What a coward! That's an obvious duck, much like pacquiao who clearly is ducking MW Martinez.

A)The difference is Mr Jones didn't ask Mr Ruiz to come in at a catch weight. And Ruiz was a legitimate belt holder. Unlike Margarito who has no notable wins over any fighters at 154 pounds.


B)Size difference between Jones and Lewis is far more significant that Martinez-Pac man


You will have to do better than this to defend the Pac man.
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I mean after all, Jones did win a heavyweight title right? He moved up in weight, beat John Ruiz, then, like the coward he is, went back down in weight, rather than fight Lennox Lewis. What a coward! That's an obvious duck, much like pacquiao who clearly is ducking MW Martinez.
joking tone of this post shows that all responses shouldn't be serious, but damn if they aren't :laugh:
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lol at haters nitpicking. simple question. 'why didnt jones defend it?' much like why didnt srl defend his LHW belt?
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Jones didnt fight John Ruiz at a catch weight, oh and John Ruiz was legitimately a champion, oh and John Ruiz wasnt 1-1 with one win over a bum in not so impressive fashion over the 2 or so year span prior to the fight, oh and ruiz's career wasnt marred by allegations of hand wraps. So thats the difference right there. Manny Pacquiao has found a way to make John Ruiz appear to be a more legitimate champion and Ruiz vs. Jones to be a legit hw championship fight. Congrats manny, thanks for helping ruin boxing.
who cares? Ruiz was a small heavyweight and obviously no one considered him thee heavyweight champion of the world.

that doens't take anything away from roy jones, what roy jones did, moving up in weight, defeating ruiz, was impressive, but no one considered jones the heavyweight champion of the world. Same goes for pacquiao, beating a bigger margarito the way he did was impressive, but no one is considering pacquao the best jr MW of the world nor should he be expected to continue to campaign at a weight class clearly he has no business in.

that's my point. It's unrealistic to think pac should continue fighting at 154 pounds. He's honestly maxed out at 147 pounds, he consistently weighs in well bell the welterweight maximum weight and rehydrates only a pound or two, while just about everyone else in teh division rehydrates 10-15 pounds or more.
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Pac should have told us from the start that he just wanted the fight to make history. At least RJJR told us that....
He mentioned it in his native cebuano language....do you understand that?
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lol at haters nitpicking. simple question. 'why didnt jones defend it?' much like why didnt srl defend his LHW belt?






For the same reasons Pac Man will not: He didn't want to get his butt kicked.



This catchweight belt was just a top rank ploy to give Pacquio a cheap ride to "history".




To look at this any other way is purely...****riding.
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For the same reasons Pac Man will not: He doesnt want to get his butt kicked.



This catchweight belt was just a top rank ploy to give Pacquio a cheap ride to "history".




To look at this any other way is purely...****riding.
so they have all the same reasons. smh...why go all the trouble of nitpicking? lol.
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