tryin to figure out a good target weight - Boxing Forum
  Trending Topics  | Free Registration  | The Team
Boxing Champions |  Boxing Schedule |  Boxing Video  |  Boxing History   |  Pound For Pound  | Lounge  | The Wire | Arcade

Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Training & Nutrition
Reply
Thread Navigation

#1
Old 08-17-2005, 03:13 AM
Scottie2Hottie
Semper Fly
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Age: 29
Posts: 4,260
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 3745 Scottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 94,872.75
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 94,872.75
Default tryin to figure out a good target weight

im a new poster and an aspiring fighter trying to figure out a good weight class for me. im a little taller than 5'6'', and i weigh 180 lbs, down from 251 in april, so i definitely have it in me to get down to whatever weight would be good for me.
anyone who might be able help me, keep in mind that im of a very large frame....no exageration, im about a foot and a few inches thick from shoulder blade to rib cage, and have a big shoulder span.
i think i can get down to welterweight, 145 or so, and im trying to see if thats too low or too high. any input would be great.
Reply With Quote
Scottie2Hottie is offline
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
#2
Old 08-17-2005, 03:42 AM
Pugnacious_Z
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,107
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 14 Pugnacious_Z has a reputation beyond reputePugnacious_Z has a reputation beyond reputePugnacious_Z has a reputation beyond reputePugnacious_Z has a reputation beyond reputePugnacious_Z has a reputation beyond reputePugnacious_Z has a reputation beyond reputePugnacious_Z has a reputation beyond reputePugnacious_Z has a reputation beyond reputePugnacious_Z has a reputation beyond reputePugnacious_Z has a reputation beyond reputePugnacious_Z has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 43,634.41
Bank: 173,408.18
Total Points: 217,042.59
Default

get to a weight where u have low fat
Reply With Quote
Pugnacious_Z is offline
#3
Old 08-17-2005, 05:39 AM
Pico Hollywood
ars longa vita brevis
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: La Republica Dominicana
Posts: 10,802
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 45 Pico Hollywood has a reputation beyond reputePico Hollywood has a reputation beyond reputePico Hollywood has a reputation beyond reputePico Hollywood has a reputation beyond reputePico Hollywood has a reputation beyond reputePico Hollywood has a reputation beyond reputePico Hollywood has a reputation beyond reputePico Hollywood has a reputation beyond reputePico Hollywood has a reputation beyond reputePico Hollywood has a reputation beyond reputePico Hollywood has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 342,981.55
Bank: 8,809,125.02
Total Points: 9,152,106.57
dollar dollar bill yall - JournalSquare 5000 Posts!! Congrats.. - The0neand0nly have a slice - Domain Happy 6K, P-Man. - K-Nan gift!!!! - Miyagi 
7k Pico!!!!!!!!!!!!  Cheers. - Melly-Mel drink is on me for showing love for getting me unbanned people - texanballer tags blow - Cptn. Howdy Congrats on the 8k, brotha from antha motha - Mr. Blonde Congrats, brother! - Bendigo 
8K Posts - hungryherbert 8k post celebration - !! AI-Holmes!! To homosexuality!!! - Mizzou 8k machete strikes. - Hard Dick only fruits and vegetables for joan guzman from now on. - Mr._Pink 
Merry Christmas - msagrain :) - Skylight Thanks again homie!..Chi-City ALL DAY! - Dub_C for buying me a gift when i couldnt afford it...you gave me a clover...peace homie - Makavelli Hood ass nigga - texanballer 
Children with Disabilities - Parkinson's Disease - VACTERL - Young Onset Parkinson's Association - Left Hook Tua Cesarean Sections - Headaches - Hospice Care - Multiple Myeloma - ??? Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - Pico Hollywood Alzheimer's - Crohn's & Colitis - Cystic Fibrosis - Domestic Violence - Fibromyalgia - Leimyosarcoma - Lupus - Pico Hollywood AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - !! AI-Holmes!! 
Childhood Cancer - mangler 
Default

yeah get a to a weight where you are not going to be exhausted in 4 rounds and you can still pack a punch... How long have you been training for??
Reply With Quote
Pico Hollywood is offline
#4
Old 08-17-2005, 04:24 PM
Scottie2Hottie
Semper Fly
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Age: 29
Posts: 4,260
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 3745 Scottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 94,872.75
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 94,872.75
Default

i havent been trained, but i started in april shadowboxing with weights for a cardio workout that also helped my handspeed...my friend's dad, who was a kickboxing blackbelt, showed me how to throw a jab and a cross...ive got great speed and snap on both, but i dont think im near ready for a real match.

ive got a lot going for me though, i think, ive got big legs and good endurance when running. when i shadowbox, i use three pound plastic weights and do 20 jabs, then 20 right crosses, then 20 1-2 combos with both for about an hour and a half 3 or 4 times a week. i go to a regular gym, btw, not a boxing club.
Reply With Quote
Scottie2Hottie is offline
#5
Old 08-17-2005, 05:07 PM
Inf3rn0
Contender
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: London
Posts: 339
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 82 Inf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 14,803.00
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 14,803.00
Default

[QUOTE=saq26]i havent been trained, but i started in april shadowboxing with weights for a cardio workout that also helped my handspeed...my friend's dad, who was a kickboxing blackbelt, showed me how to throw a jab and a cross...ive got great speed and snap on both, but i dont think im near ready for a real match.

my match you mean fight?
if so you wont be ready for quite a while yet, firstly youd need to join a club,obvisously, then you be a few months at least at the club before you will be ready for fights.in these months youll need to learn the punches, technique, balance and need to spar alot.
answering Q.
all people can do is advise what weight devision you shoud go in but you have to feel comfortable in that weight devision and if you gain quite abit of muscle you will can weight un less you loose they same amount of fat, which may be hard if you go into the lowest weight devision you can, you say welter for instance.
and will you be ok in this weight, you say you have a big frame, then going into a lower devision then the people in that devision maybe more agile and tires less easily, have faster hands (maybe) and be used to the weight there in, where as if you either aim for a devision thats either too low or too high etc, then you wont be used to it and will have to adapt quickly or your get beat .
Reply With Quote
Inf3rn0 is offline
#6
Old 08-17-2005, 05:12 PM
Inf3rn0
Contender
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: London
Posts: 339
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 82 Inf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 14,803.00
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 14,803.00
Default

so ur 180lbs, thats...cruiserweight..i beleive.
so i would think you could get down to bout,super middleweight, middleweight.
Reply With Quote
Inf3rn0 is offline
#7
Old 08-17-2005, 05:26 PM
Scottie2Hottie
Semper Fly
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Age: 29
Posts: 4,260
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 3745 Scottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 94,872.75
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 94,872.75
Default

if there's anything ive learned from the diet im on, its patience. if a trainer told me he wanted to work with me for 6 months before putting me in the ring, id definitely be up for it.
people i know, including my doctor, say they cant see me weighing a pound under 160. however, they arent considering the fact that im aiming for very low percent body fat...i think i at 5 percent or so body fat, i could be 140.
i thought maybe my thick body would offer good protection in a lighter punching weight class like welterweight, but i can see how that would make me a walking target for those fast smaller guys.
but hey, thats why i asked in the first place, i need the input. what do the rest of you think? short but thick better suited to welterweight or middleweight?
Reply With Quote
Scottie2Hottie is offline
#8
Old 08-17-2005, 05:51 PM
Inf3rn0
Contender
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: London
Posts: 339
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 82 Inf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 14,803.00
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 14,803.00
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by saq26
if there's anything ive learned from the diet im on, its patience. if a trainer told me he wanted to work with me for 6 months before putting me in the ring, id definitely be up for it.
people i know, including my doctor, say they cant see me weighing a pound under 160. however, they arent considering the fact that im aiming for very low percent body fat...i think i at 5 percent or so body fat, i could be 140.
i thought maybe my thick body would offer good protection in a lighter punching weight class like welterweight, but i can see how that would make me a walking target for those fast smaller guys.
but hey, thats why i asked in the first place, i need the input. what do the rest of you think? short but thick better suited to welterweight or middleweight?
personally i think your better suited for middleweight.

people of larger body structures will natureally punch slower and even if you have alot of training to increase your speed dont forget that the other opponents in you weight will be training awelll so the more you train on handspeed so will they prolly, so you only asset is power, but you will have to be as agile as them and its ok saying yea ok (not saying you do)i can skip of run or wateva for 16 minutes (or whateva you may do to increase you stamina-endurance) but when you get into a ring and start sparring or fighting then you tense up and it takes a hell of a lot more out off you, but you will experience that sparring (as i did) and being a large build then you may find it harder than say if oyu were in middleweight then you would be fighting people of simular builds.

And even if you get down to 140, firstly you need to keep a strict diet to maintain that weight, which i assume you know as you have lost a lot of weight in the past, but tht 140 is 20 pounds lighter than what you doctor thinks that you will be so thats 20pounds of fat/fluid less, so when you start training and gain muscle you will struggle to looseeven more fat and maintain your weight, no matter how lean you may get you may struggle to keep that weight.

correst me if im wrong.

Last edited by Inf3rn0; 08-17-2005 at 05:57 PM.
Reply With Quote
Inf3rn0 is offline
#9
Old 08-17-2005, 06:18 PM
Scottie2Hottie
Semper Fly
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Age: 29
Posts: 4,260
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 3745 Scottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond reputeScottie2Hottie has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 94,872.75
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 94,872.75
Default

yeah, i figure that any time youre trying to maintain a very lean physique you need to be training and dieting.
i leaning towards what you say, however...even if im better protected against little guys by my thick hide, that doesnt mean ill win matches...that sort of natural defense is better against the knockout punchers you see in higher weight classes, as opposed to quick guys who can out point me even if they arent putting me on my back.
id love to spar, but freshman at my college cant have cars, so making the commute to boxing gyms in the area. im going to unh in durham, nh, where by car i could easily commute to lowell or manchester, but couldnt do much on foot.
Reply With Quote
Scottie2Hottie is offline
#10
Old 08-17-2005, 07:57 PM
Inf3rn0
Contender
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: London
Posts: 339
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 82 Inf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond reputeInf3rn0 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 14,803.00
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 14,803.00
Default

you get knockout punchers in any division not just higher divisions, look at naseem hamed for example he was in bantum- featherweight and he got alot of ko's and tko, and even broke someones nose in three places.

btw, do you have any boxing equipment or anything you could train with, by this i mean heavybag double end bag etc.? if not they are good for training at home or when you are not training at home. and do you have a routine or what exercieses do you do other than pnching woth weights and you cardio work?

Last edited by Inf3rn0; 08-17-2005 at 08:01 PM.
Reply With Quote
Inf3rn0 is offline
Reply

Share This With Friends

User Tag List

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Cookie Policy - Privacy Policy - Submit News - Feedback - Site Map - Advertise with Us

Copyright 2003-2016 BoxingScene LLC All rights reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:32 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.