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Ward by KO/TKO/RTD 5 15.63%
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Old 11-07-2010, 06:46 PM #11
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Yes.

But will the referee allow Ward to get away with it, while at the same time penalizing Bika?

That is sure to happen if the referee is Jack Reiss
You really want Ward to lose, huh?
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I'd love to see Ward laid out by Bika. I don't know why but Ward is probably the only fighter I'm a hater of.
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Please god Bika by KO!
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You really want Ward to lose, huh?
He deserves to lose.

He demanded all his fights be at home (with his crooked referee) in the Super Six, while everyone else had to fight on the road. And Ken Hershman agreed.

He was given points for nothing when Dirrell left the Super Six.

He has the ugliest fighting style of any young boxer. He uses illegal tactics like head butts and hitting while holding, and his crooked home referees like Jack Reiss let him get away with it.


And then he goes around calling himself the "Son of God" - what an ego.
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He deserves to lose.

He demanded all his fights be at home (with his crooked referee) in the Super Six, while everyone else had to fight on the road. And Ken Hershman agreed.

He was given points for nothing when Dirrell left the Super Six.

He has the ugliest fighting style of any young boxer. He uses illegal tactics like head butts and hitting while holding, and his crooked home referees like Jack Reiss let him get away with it.


And then he goes around calling himself the "Son of God" - what an ego.
whether you like Ward or not you can't deny that he's a very good boxer and if he's the better boxer and wins more rounds than Bika then he deserves to win...it's as simple as that.
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You can't deny Andre's talent's. His has exceptional boxing skills & brain with extremly fast feet of hand & foot, he really knows how to control the pace & tempo of a fight, with is impressive considering his amount of fights.

Can he get rough on the inside? Yes, but the same can be said for pass greats such as Sandy Saddler, Harry Greb, Rocky Mariciano, Evander Holyfield, & the list goes on. It dosen't hurt there greatness or skills. It's a brutal & rough sport, and it's only natrual some fighters get rough in there.

And like I said, I to would like to see him fight out of Oakland, But I feel he still beats all his opponents he's already beat whether it be in anywere in the USA.

Did he have hometown advantage at the Olympics? Nope, they took palce in a different country. Did it effect Ward in any way? No, he looked as good as ever and won his final by 7 points.
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Ugly ass fight, worse than Calz VS Hopkins
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whether you like Ward or not you can't deny that he's a very good boxer and if he's the better boxer and wins more rounds than Bika then he deserves to win...it's as simple as that.
If he's a very good boxer, why does he need to

1) use illegal headbutts?

2) hit while holding?

3) hit on the break? (something else his home refs permit him to do)

4) REFUSE TO FIGHT A DECENT OPPONENT ANYWHERE EXCEPT IN OAKLAND, WHERE HE'S ALLOWED TO CHEAT AS MUCH AS HE WANTS?
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First off save your hate for Ward's promoter who got Showtime to agree to his first 2 fights being in Oakland. Secondly, the fight with Dirrell (which never happened) was supposed to take place in Detroit initially. But Detroit is mired in a HORRIBLE economy right now and you werent going to get 4,000 fans in the seat, thus the location for that fight was being argued back and forth because the almighty $ is what moves the boxing world. Ward puts 10,000 butts in the seats at Oracle (on average) so that's a matter of dollars and cents. Yes he was given points because Dirrell requested an official FORFIT. So Ward gets the points. Did you want him to fight in Oklahoma City when he fought Green on short notice? Those Indian Casinos get 1,000 butts in the seats on a good night. As for Kessler...I agree he was given a lot of freedom and he roughed Kessler up. But I have news for you.....you can put that fight in Vegas, Atlantic City, Texas, NY, California, Montreal, Quebec City, as a matter of fact anywhere outside of Germany and Denmark and the result is exactly the same. Kessler gets dominated, roughed up, and he loses his belt. You think Froch gets the W if he fights Dirrell in the US? You think Abraham gets DQ'd if that fight is in Germany. JuanMa Lopez gets away with murder in Puerto Rico...you see what happened in Vegas against Marquez? He was deducted points and he couldnt understand why...its the same thing he has done in 30 someodd fights on his home island. You think Lucien Bute gets 20 seconds to shake off getting knocked the F out by Librado Andrade in MExico City, Texas, or Cali? Hell No!

What I am saying is that it's part of the sport brother, it just is what it is. Ward has fought at home so he gets the benefit of the doubt. But to call him dirty? I disagree completely.

You are going to be hating for a long time because he isnt going to get really tested until he fights Lucien Bute. Right now Ward will DOMINATE Froch and Abraham let alone Bike or Glen Johnson. Ward is out there playing Chess while these SuperSix guys are playing checkers. Virgil Hill is an EXCELLENT trainer to boot....they arent losing anytime soon. In boxing the difference between elite and really good is a country mile and Ward will illustrate this vs Bika (who I like a lot as a fighter).
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Fight is extremely dirty but the only rounds Bika wins will be extremely close, and there will be 8 or more rounds clearly won by Ward.

Ward by UD 117-109 (both fighters being deducted a point for headbutts/lowblows/etc).
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