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Old 09-28-2010, 06:23 AM
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Jewish activists from the United States, Britain, Germany and Israel, determined to break the Israeli naval blockade of Gaza, are sailing toward the Palestinian territory in a catamaran carrying humanitarian aid.

If the 10 passengers and crew members manage to dodge the Israel Defense Forces, they should land in Gaza on Tuesday.

According to a statement on the Web site Jewish Boat to Gaza, the voyage of the British-flagged ship, called the Irene, “is a symbolic act of protest against the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories and the siege of Gaza, and a message of solidarity to Palestinians and Israelis who seek peace and justice.”

Updates on the ship’s progress are being posted on the @jewishboat2gaza Twitter feed. A recent update reads:

Reports that the IDF have boarded the Irene have proven untrue — they fired upon a fishing boat off the Gaza coast.


The project’s Web site also includes details about the peace activists on board, including Reuven Moskovitz, an 82-year-old Holocaust survivor; Rami Elhanan, a founder of the Bereaved Families Circle of Israelis and Palestinians, whose daughter was killed by a Palestinian suicide bomber; and members of American, British and German Jewish groups that helped to organize the mission.

Before the boat left Cyprus on Sunday, Lillian Rosengarten, an American activist from New York who escaped Nazi Germany as a child, told the blog Mondoweiss: “We hope and believe there is some poss***305;b***305;l***305;ty that we can get to Gaza. We are nonviolent but w***305;ll practice passive resistance, for we will not turn the boat around.”

The activists also posted this Agence France-Presse video report on their Web site, which includes interviews with some of the passengers in Cyprus:



Marion Kozak, the mother of the new leader of Britain’s opposition Labour Party, Ed Miliband, is a prominent member of Jews for Justice for Palestinians, one of the groups supporting the ship. Ms. Kozak survived the Nazi occupation of Poland and is a well-known human rights activist.

Mr. Miliband, who told London’s Evening Standard last month, “Obviously I’m Jewish, it is part of my identity, but not in a religious sense,” has been outspoken in his opposition to the blockade of Gaza by Israel. His older brother, David, served as foreign minister in the previous Labour government. In an interview this month, Ed Miliband said that British foreign policy in the region should not be too influenced by American policy telling Politics.co.uk:

[O]n the Middle East and Israel-Palestine, they’re always going to have their particular view. We’ve got to have our particular view. So I was certainly outspoken at the time about the attack on the Gaza flotilla. We need to do that. The Gaza blockade needs to be lifted.

Another group behind the ship is European Jews for a Just Peace. In an interview shortly before he died this year, the British historian Tony Judt explained that criticism of Israeli policies regarding the Palestinians still mattered. Mr. Judt told The London Review of Books:

Israel wants two things more than anything else in the world. The first is American aid. This it has. As long as it continues to get American aid without conditions it can do stupid things for a very long time, damaging Palestinians and damaging Israel without running any risk. However, the second thing Israel wants is an economic relationship with Europe as a way to escape from the Middle East. The joke is that Jews spent a hundred years desperately trying to have a state in the Middle East. Now they spend all their time trying to get out of the Middle East. They don’t want to be there economically, culturally or politically – they don’t feel part of it and don’t want to be part of it. They want to be part of Europe and therefore it is here that the E.U. has enormous leverage. If the E.U. said: ‘So long as you break international laws, you can’t have the privileges of partial economic membership, you can’t have internal trading rights, you can’t be part of the E.U. market,’ this would be a huge issue in Israel, second only to losing American military aid. We don’t even have to talk about Gaza, just the Occupied Territories.

Why do Europeans not do it? Here, the problem of blackmail is significant. And it is not even active blackmail but self-blackmail. When I talk about these things in Holland or in Germany, people say to me: ‘We couldn’t do that. Don’t forget, we are in Europe. Think of what we did to the Jews. We can’t use economic leverage against Israel. We can’t be a critic of Israel, we can’t use our strength as a huge economic actor to pressure the Jewish state. Why? Because of Auschwitz.’ I understand this argument very well. Many of my family were killed in Auschwitz. However, this is ridiculous. Europe can’t live indefinitely on the credit of someone else’s crimes to justify a state that creates and commits its own crimes. If Zionism is to succeed as a representation of the original ideas of the Zionist founders, Israel has to become a normal state. That was the idea. Israel should not be special because it is Jewish. Jews are to have a state just like everyone else has a state. It should have no more rights than Slovenia and no fewer. Therefore, it also has to behave like a state. It has to declare its frontiers, recognize international law, sign international treaties and agreements. Furthermore, other countries have to behave towards it the way they would towards any other state that broke those laws. Otherwise it is treated as special and Zionism as a project has failed. "

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-0...eacefully.html

Israeli Navy ships intercepted a boat carrying Jewish activists and aid to the Gaza Strip, an army spokesman said.

Navy personnel boarded the ship without violence today and are leading it to Israel***8217;s Ashdod port, army spokesman Barak Raz said by telephone.

Israeli officials said yesterday they won***8217;t allow the aid boat, which is carrying toys, textbooks and prosthetic limbs, to break Israel***8217;s maritime blockade against Gaza. Nine Turks were killed in May when Israeli naval commandos boarded ships to stop an aid flotilla from reaching Gaza.

The boat stopped today, which was sponsored by London-based Jews for Justice for Palestinians and other Jewish groups, aims to ***8220;challenge the continuing blockade of Gaza,***8221; according to its website. The pro-Palestinian Freedom Flotilla Coalition, which was behind the May ships, said in Athens yesterday that it is planning a second attempt to break the blockade with twice the number of vessels.

To contact the reporter on this story: Jonathan Ferziger in Tel Aviv at jferziger@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Peter Hirschberg at phirschberg@bloomberg.net
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:23 PM
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Got this e-mail:

Hi everyone

This is to let you know that the Jewish boat to Gaza, the ***8220;Irene***8221; has been boarded and is, we understand, being towed to Israel.

It is important to make as much fuss as we can at this point. Please contact the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) and your MP as soon as you can.

A letter from Jews for Justice for Peace to Alistair Burt at the FCO is pasted in below. It outlines the situation and explains what the boat is about. You can get more information from the boat website www.jewishboattogaza.org

You can follow this link to write to the FCO and also send a letter to your MP, MSP and MEP via www.writetothem.com

Please contact:

1. The FCO itself. To email the FCO go to
http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/ministerial-feedback-form
You can merely say something like:

***8220;I understand that the Jewish Boat to Gaza has been intercepted and its passengers and crew taken into custody. Among them are two British citizens and we trust the FCO will do everything in its power to ensure their safety and early release.***8221;

Write to As many people as possiblestarting with your MP (ADAPT THE LETTER BELOW ADDRESSED TO ALASTAIR BURT) . Stress to your MP that that there are two British citizens aboard. Urge them to press the FCO to ensure their safety and rapid release, as well as that of the other passengers and crew.
When you email, send the letter both as text in the body of the email and as an attachment. Ask your friends to do the same. Ask them for support. Ask them to contact their MPs about it. Ask them also to contact the FCO.

The more fuss we can generate, the more likely the people will be released unharmed, sooner rather than later.
PLEASE SHARE AND FORWARD THIS IS A TIME FOR SOLIDARITY

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Mr Alistair Burt
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King Charles St
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28 September 2010

Dear Mr Burt


We are writing to urge your Government to do everything possible to assist the nine passengers and crew on the Jewish Boat to Gaza ***8211; the Irene. We have been advised that the boat was boarded this morning by the IDF as it was approaching Gaza.

This tiny vessel is sailing under a British flag and is carrying a cargo of symbolic aid for the trapped people of Gaza ***8211; children***8217;s toys and text books, musical instruments, water coolers, nets for Gaza***8217;s fishermen.

All bar one of the people on board are Jewish. Two are British citizens, one is German, one American and the rest are Israeli. Two are very elderly and frail ***8211; one was taken as a baby as a refugee from Germany in the late 1930s while another survived the war in a horrific Romanian ghetto and then emigrated to the new Israeli state. Yet another passenger is a leading member of the highly respected Jewish/Palestinian reconciliation group, the Bereaved Families Forum, which brings together people from both communities who have lost close relatives in the conflict.

We have chosen to locate our mission on such a very small boat in order to emphasise the symbolic nature of the journey. In addition, from the outset, we made it clear that our passengers and crew would not engage in any physical confrontation and would not present the Israelis with any reason to use physical force. These principles have been strictly observed.

We are now extremely concerned for the well being and safety of all on board. We are asking you to do the following:

· to provide full consular support to the British citizens on board ***8211; Glyn Secker, retired social worker and the Jewish captain, and Vishal Vishvanath, who is a photojournalist;

· to urge the Israeli Government to release everyone as soon as

the boat reaches dry land;

· to make it clear that Her Majesty***8217;s Government supports the message of the boat, passengers and crew;

that the siege of Gaza should be lifted and Israel should engage in genuine negotiations with all the elected representatives of the Palestinian people so as to achieve a just and lasting peaceful solution to the Middle East conflict.

Yours sincerely
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I wish they send food and medical supplies instead of toys....
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The elected Hamas government in Gaza considers itself at war with Israel, hence the blockade. What is so difficult to understand about this?
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Naval blockades are acts of war under international law, so one country may legally blockade another only if it is acting in individual or collective self-defense—the standard requirements for going to war—or the U.N. Security Council has proclaimed the action necessary to maintain international peace.

Many consider Israel's blockade to be on very shaky legal ground. Its status in the West Bank and Gaza is widely viewed as a belligerent occupation, despite the 2005 disengagement. Belligerent occupation is different from a true state of war and may not confer the technical right to form a blockade. Second, Sunday's incident occurred 40 miles off the coast of Gaza, well outside the traditional blockade range. Finally, Israel has allegedly been firing on Palestinian fisherman, which is absolutely illegal.

I wouldn't doubt the last sentence, as I've seen multiple videos of Israeli soldiers shooting at Palestinian farmers.
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Naval blockades are acts of war under international law, so one country may legally blockade another only if it is acting in individual or collective self-defense—the standard requirements for going to war—or the U.N. Security Council has proclaimed the action necessary to maintain international peace.

Many consider Israel's blockade to be on very shaky legal ground. Its status in the West Bank and Gaza is widely viewed as a belligerent occupation, despite the 2005 disengagement. Belligerent occupation is different from a true state of war and may not confer the technical right to form a blockade. Second, Sunday's incident occurred 40 miles off the coast of Gaza, well outside the traditional blockade range. Finally, Israel has allegedly been firing on Palestinian fisherman, which is absolutely illegal.

I wouldn't doubt the last sentence, as I've seen multiple videos of Israeli soldiers shooting at Palestinian farmers.
Hamas considers itself in a state of war against Israel.
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Originally Posted by squealpiggy
I hate Muslims because I feel they don't approve of my homosexual lifestyle.

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That doesn't justify your heartless attitude toward the people of Gaza.

Other gay people don't take pleasure in their suffering the way that you do.


See what this ****face does.......Tunney any idiot can do the same.You must be better than that.SHOW IT!!
Refute Piggy's statement instead of returning to your nature.....
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