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Old 08-26-2010, 03:21 PM
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what do you mean by another suèprior opponent? Cotto beat mosley and pacs victories over mab mor and marquez are better than any of floyds. Dont try to act like Floyd takes on tougher opponents when its not true.
Mosley was the consensus #1 ww and the lineal champ when floyd fought him. Clottey was a fringe contender ranked between 4-6 by most reputable rankings. Manny's wins losses and a draw vs those 3 at 126 are very respectable. Floyd's wins vs Corrales, castillo, and Genaro hernandez are just as respectable.
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Old 08-26-2010, 03:22 PM
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Lets get one thing clear, Mayweather didnt plan to fight Mosley! The Haiti quake and Bertos decision to not fight made it possible. If the Clottey fight wasnt done Im sure Pac vs Mosley would have been made but it was too late.
Floyd wasnt planning to fight Mosley and Manny wasn't planning to fight Clottey becasue floyd was planning to fight manny until manny refused OST.
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Old 08-26-2010, 03:24 PM
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Lets get one thing clear, Mayweather didnt plan to fight Mosley! The Haiti quake and Bertos decision to not fight made it possible. If the Clottey fight wasnt done Im sure Pac vs Mosley would have been made but it was too late.
Yes, just like how they're planning to fight another Top Rank fighters in November instead of Paul Williams who called manny's ass out.
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Old 08-26-2010, 03:27 PM
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Regardless of who ducked who last time, and this time. What will you think if Floyd takes another superior opponent?

Floyd get's a lot of hate, and I have personally called him a ***** unless he fights Pwill/Martinez, but it won't be hard to find a better opponent then Marg, and you have to give him some credit.
I give credit if the Opponent is a challange for him, not if the opponent is better then Pacs opponent
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Old 08-26-2010, 03:28 PM
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Yes, just like how they're planning to fight another Top Rank fighters in November instead of Paul Williams who called manny's ass out.
He has called everybodies ass out, including Floyds
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Old 08-26-2010, 03:33 PM
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He has called everybodies ass out, including Floyds
manny isn't always about making the fights everyone would be interested in seeing. They wanted no part of Mosley according to roach, so let's not pretend they did. manny vs mosley would have been a better fight than manny vs clottey, and manny vs williams would be better than manny vs marg. He's generally choosing Top Rank guys over the guys everyone wants to see him fight. manny just like most boxers likes to fight in-house.
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Old 08-26-2010, 03:39 PM
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what do you mean by another suèprior opponent? Cotto beat mosley and pacs victories over mab mor and marquez are better than any of floyds. Dont try to act like Floyd takes on tougher opponents when its not true.
You and everyone else knows the Cotto that lost to Margarito, was NOT considered the better fighter between him and Mosley. Mosley was the #1 WW..PERIOD!

If you are gonna erase context when it comes to Pac's wins, why not do it w/Floyd?

Prime Marquez 1 Draw
Prime Marquez 2 VERY controversial win

Prime MAB 1 Dominating win
Past Prime MAB2 Win

Prime Mor 1 Lost
Past Prime Mor 2 & 3 KO's Past prime and weight drained

Now, compare that to
FMJ
Prime JLC 1 - Very Controversial Win
Prime JLC 2 -Dominating win

Prime Diego Corrales Dominated him

Prime Chavez 1- TKO
Prime Chavez 2-TKO

Prime Jab Judah- Dominating win

Marquez -Over his natural weight class -Totally dominated

Just because a person has a legendary name, doesn't mean that they are still a tough fight.
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Old 08-26-2010, 03:46 PM
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manny isn't always about making the fights everyone would be interested in seeing. They wanted no part of Mosley according to roach, so let's not pretend they did. manny vs mosley would have been a better fight than manny vs clottey, and manny vs williams would be better than manny vs marg. He's generally choosing Top Rank guys over the guys everyone wants to see him fight. manny just like most boxers likes to fight in-house.
Manny wanted no part of Mosley... Floyd didn't want Cotto or Marg and doesn't want Manny now either, don't ever bring up who ANY FIGHTER ducked and then bring up Floyd in the same sentence. They only time that should ever happen is when you discuss who the bigger b.itch is, Floyd or Haye.

That being said, Floyd only fought Mosley because he didn't want to fight Manny. They used the earthquake as an excuse to pull Berto out of the fight. Berto had "family" die in the quake yet he had never been to Haiti, so obviously he had no idea who these people are. I have family in Cuba I've never met and I wouldn't cancel the biggest fight of my life to go see a whole bunch of dead people I never met before, be real. As for Floyd taking a better opponent than Manny's opponent who cares the entire point is he completely ducked Manny who is better than anyone Floyd can pick, either way he's still a *****.
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manny isn't always about making the fights everyone would be interested in seeing. They wanted no part of Mosley according to roach, so let's not pretend they did. manny vs mosley would have been a better fight than manny vs clottey, and manny vs williams would be better than manny vs marg. He's generally choosing Top Rank guys over the guys everyone wants to see him fight. manny just like most boxers likes to fight in-house.
You mean like Floyd?

And Floyd wanted to fight Mosley?

There was a time to face mosley and it wasnt 2010 when Shane was 38 and 10 years removed from being the #1 P4P fighter
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I would say if he is fighting a superior opponent then why not fight Pac in the first place?
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