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Old 08-20-2010, 06:37 PM
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Actually most of Tyson's wins were upsets and this was not.

But what is it in your avatar turdleburgle ?
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Old 08-21-2010, 12:04 AM
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Actually most of Tyson's wins were upsets and this was not.

But what is it in your avatar turdleburgle ?
When did Tyson ever win a fight he wasn't supposed to win?
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Old 08-21-2010, 03:21 AM
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Shows what an idiot you are,Lewis's jab is regarded as one of the greatest in heavyweight history and yet you describe it as a paw lol.The Mccall knockout was a fluke and weve already gone through that so theres no point in dragging that back up.Lewis avenged this fluke loss and even made mccall cry like a baby.

Bruno didnt even show up against tyson,he took his money and went down when it made sense.Lewis was just warming up against bruno and perhaps you forgot the part where Lewis knocked him silly with that hook.



Douglas wasnt in Lewis's class and deep down you know he isnt.
Against who did Lewis show this "Great-Jab" ?.... list the fighters who Lewis fought where i can see this mythical "Great-Jab".... Lewis jab was nothing more than a paw, it was a distraction not a lethal weapon, Lewis was a *****cat who was given a lesson in jabbing by both Bruno & Mercer neither of who are renowned for having a legendary jab.

"THE McCALL KNOCK OUT WAS A FLUKE" - Laughable!
and you dont want to talk about it.

YOU SAY, -"Bruno didnt even show up against tyson,he took his money and went down when it made sense."... exactly like old Tyson did against Lewis, with Mike even saying "Thanks for the Money Lennox"... Tyson fought Lewis 13yrs after Buster Douglas had beat him, 6yrs after Holyfield had beat him and after serving several lengthy prison sentences..Lewis never beat Tyson he beat a Shell of Mike Tyson...

C`MON spew out a few more of your howlers on this subject your a true rib-tickler lol
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Old 08-21-2010, 05:29 AM
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This fight showed that a tall fighter with good movement and a good long jab can beat and dominate tyson.
Lewis never had the jab, upper body movement or the footwotk to compare to a prime motivated Douglas
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Old 08-21-2010, 05:40 AM
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Lewis never had the jab, upper body movement or the footwotk to compare to a prime motivated Douglas
you are correct - Oliver McCall said he knew he would KO Lewis coz Lewis has no movement he comes walking in with 2 Left Feet... Buster Douglas had movement, ring-savvy & a great jab-right hand which he used for 11rds to break-down Tyson before getting the KO with a brutal 7 punch salvo.. which is unlike Lennox Lewis stoppages where he was poleaxed "TWICE" with one-punch by mediocre journeymen
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Old 08-21-2010, 05:46 AM
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you are correct - Oliver McCall said he knew he would KO Lewis coz Lewis has no movement he comes walking in with 2 Left Feet...
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McCall, well prepared by Steward and assistant trainer Greg Page, waited for the moment when Lewis would flick a lazy jab and attempt to follow it with his favorite punch Ė a big, telegraphed right hand.

He didnít have to wait long. Lewis gave McCall the opening he was anticipating and Double-L went crashing, face first, to the canvas after catching a thunderous right to the jaw early in the second round.
Lewis beat the count, barely, but he was wobbling and glassy-eyed as he lurched into the arms of Mexican referee Lupe Garcia. Garcia did the right thing by signaling the fight to an end.
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Buster Douglas had movement, ring-savvy & a great jab-right hand which he used for 11rds to break-down Tyson before getting the KO with a brutal 7 punch salvo.. which is unlike Lennox Lewis stoppages where he was poleaxed "TWICE" with one-punch by mediocre journeymen
Buster could of gone on to become a great fighter, but unforetnately his heart was never really in boxing. I watched that Tyson-Douglas fight the other day, Douglas put on a masterful performance that night, he deserved to win
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Old 08-21-2010, 05:59 AM
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When did Tyson ever win a fight he wasn't supposed to win?
The pre fight's bets are one thing . but one should not be too surprised when a 6'2.5" man "manages" to stop a 5'9.5" man.
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Against who did Lewis show this "Great-Jab" ?.... list the fighters who Lewis fought where i can see this mythical "Great-Jab".... Lewis jab was nothing more than a paw, it was a distraction not a lethal weapon, Lewis was a *****cat who was given a lesson in jabbing by both Bruno & Mercer neither of who are renowned for having a legendary jab.

"THE McCALL KNOCK OUT WAS A FLUKE" - Laughable!
and you dont want to talk about it.

YOU SAY, -"Bruno didnt even show up against tyson,he took his money and went down when it made sense."... exactly like old Tyson did against Lewis, with Mike even saying "Thanks for the Money Lennox"... Tyson fought Lewis 13yrs after Buster Douglas had beat him, 6yrs after Holyfield had beat him and after serving several lengthy prison sentences..Lewis never beat Tyson he beat a Shell of Mike Tyson...

C`MON spew out a few more of your howlers on this subject your a true rib-tickler lol




You must have missed Lewis's fights with Holyfield when he completely controlled him with his jab,you say it was just a paw and yet Holyfield couldnt deal with it and couldnt find a way past it,and a tough fighter like Holyfield would have gotten past it easily if it were just a "paw".


Yeah the Mccall knockout was a fluke punch,mccalls eyes were closed when he threw that punch,these punches happen and mccall couldnt do anything in the rematch because Lewis saw the punch coming and took it


Lewis could have gotten him out earlier but he wanted to make it a long drawn out beating,he wanted to give tyson the thrashing that he had coming for a long time,for tyson ducking him and the crap that he had been spewing over the years.bruno was motivated against Lewis and that was why he did well early but Lewis still knocked him out and wasnt even in his prime yet.
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Old 08-21-2010, 07:32 AM
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You must have missed Lewis's fights with Holyfield when he completely controlled him with his jab,you say it was just a paw and yet Holyfield couldnt deal with it and couldnt find a way past it,and a tough fighter like Holyfield would have gotten past it easily if it were just a "paw".
Holyfield has always had problems dealing with the jab, see Holyfield-Moorer for example. He has miminum, to no head movement and comes forward in a straight line. Lewis's jab is nothing like Douglas jab, which was much quicker than Lewis's pawing jab.
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Yeah the Mccall knockout was a fluke punch,mccalls eyes were closed when he threw that punch,these punches happen and mccall couldnt do anything in the rematch because Lewis saw the punch coming and took it.
Manny trained Mccall to be on the lookout for Lewis's jab and telegraphed straight right combo. McCall was mentally unfit for the rematch as well
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Lewis could have gotten him out earlier but he wanted to make it a long drawn out beating,he wanted to give tyson the thrashing that he had coming for a long time,
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It had nothing to do with that, rather it had everything to do with Lewis's cautious low risk style, which is why people tend to find alot of his fight boring
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for tyson ducking him and the crap that he had been spewing over the years.
Lewis also ducked fighters as well
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bruno was motivated against Lewis and that was why he did well early but Lewis still knocked him out and wasnt even in his prime yet.
And Bruno wasn't motivated for his other fights, like Witherspoon and Bonecrusher? I had Bruno practically winning all of the rounds of that fight untill the desparaton punch from Lewis landed on Bruno's glass chin
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Holyfield has always had problems dealing with the jab, see Holyfield-Moorer for example. He has miminum, to no head movement and comes forward in a straight line. Lewis's jab is nothing like Douglas jab, which was much quicker than Lewis's pawing jab.

Manny trained Mccall to be on the lookout for Lewis's jab and telegraphed straight right combo. McCall was mentally unfit for the rematch as well

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It had nothing to do with that, rather it had everything to do with Lewis's cautious low risk style, which is why people tend to find alot of his fight boring

Lewis also ducked fighters as well

And Bruno wasn't motivated for his other fights, like Witherspoon and Bonecrusher? I had Bruno practically winning all of the rounds of that fight untill the desparaton punch from Lewis landed on Bruno's glass chin
funny how in the holyfield lewis 2nd fight holyfield had no problem getting buy the jab that fight sits so uneasy with me a sometimes wanna go fuking nuts lewis lost a will agree holyfield had problems in the first fight with the jab he even said it himself but holyfields legs and movement were not what they were he was on the slide big time in the fiist fight then somehow he put in his last great display for his age (still not a prime display) beaten lewis to the punch and cleary outworking lewis only to be robbed because of the horrible result in the first fight.
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