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Old 08-10-2010, 09:00 PM
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First fast is tommorow...check your timetable

http://www.ramadantimetable.co.uk/

This is the UK we all agreed on the day by committee. This si the funny thing about sectarians.
that looks like a trustworthy site.

has the new moon of ramadhan been sighted anywhere in the wotrld, or even in the uk?

if it has then its ramadhan tomorrow, if not then ramdhan will start on thursday.

its good to fast in sha'ban anyway, prepares you for ramadhan a little better.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:01 PM
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Absolutely not. I am in no way insulting islam. Not exclusively. I am insulting religion, including buddhism, christianity, jainism, hinduism, sihkism and ba'hai.
You seem to have as strict a doctrine as our Islamic friend with your own set of dos and don'ts, forbidden acts and thoughts, etc. You worship the idea of Atheism. You pray to No God. You follow the stricture of that philosophy. And you seem fiercely adamant about defending it. I'm not sure I see the difference between your form of atheism and deism or theism or whatever. I'm sure you can talk intelligently and at length about all the woes down through history caused by religion. And you'd be dead right. But I would respectfully suggest you miss the point because you appear to be preaching as well. YOU appear to be spreading the word. YOU have the answers. YOU know the way. But you have about as much chance of showing someone your light as venom1 does showing you his. You won't be converting to Islam anytime soon and he won't be going your way, either.

But it doesn't matter to you that venom1 or me or anyone is going to argue with you and dispute what you say. You know you're right. How? You got faith, brother. Like it you not, you got faith.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:17 PM
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that looks like a trustworthy site.

has the new moon of ramadhan been sighted anywhere in the wotrld, or even in the uk?

if it has then its ramadhan tomorrow, if not then ramdhan will start on thursday.

its good to fast in sha'ban anyway, prepares you for ramadhan a little better.
Far as I know moon was sighted in Saudi but the decision here was made around 10pm a good few hours after Saudi announced the sighting.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:27 PM
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You seem to have as strict a doctrine as our Islamic friend with your own set of dos and don'ts,
What are those then?

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forbidden acts and thoughts, etc.
What are those?

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You worship the idea of Atheism.
In what way to I worship this idea?

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You pray to No God.
Precisely how do I go about engaging in such an invocation?

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You follow the stricture of that philosophy. And you seem fiercely adamant about defending it.
Fascinating. What is the stricture of that philosophy, just so I know that I'm not doing it wrong?

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I'm not sure I see the difference between your form of atheism and deism or theism or whatever.
Damn, and you had such insight into the rest of me... ahem... religion. It's very simple: The difference between atheism and theism is the letter "A" which as a prefix means "no". I don't believe in god while theists, by definition, do. You're welcome.

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I'm sure you can talk intelligently and at length about all the woes down through history caused by religion. And you'd be dead right.
So what's the beef then?

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But I would respectfully suggest you miss the point because you appear to be preaching as well. YOU appear to be spreading the word. YOU have the answers. YOU know the way.
Ah now there you're dead wrong. Atheism doesn't have the answers. But a sceptical individual tends to have the right tools to go and look for the answers, instead of accepting what you're told they are as long as your instructor tells you in a strong clear voice.

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But you have about as much chance of showing someone your light as venom1 does showing you his. You won't be converting to Islam anytime soon and he won't be going your way, either.
I'm not posting threads asking people for approval for how terribly pious my fornicating dope smoking ass is.

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But it doesn't matter to you that venom1 or me or anyone is going to argue with you and dispute what you say. You know you're right. How? You got faith, brother. Like it you not, you got faith.
I have faith that if I don't go to the toilet soon I will be having turtle's head.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:33 PM
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:39 PM
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Far as I know moon was sighted in Saudi but the decision here was made around 10pm a good few hours after Saudi announced the sighting.
There have been negative moon sightings in several countries east of the UK (i can give you the list if you want), the observatory in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia have already confirmed that it will be impossible to sight the moon on tuesday and it has been confirmed that there has been no sighting in Saudi.

Some muslim countries have decided to follow the saudi's decission to start ramdhan without a moon sighting, but it is the conensus to start ramadhan on Thursday.

Either way, Ramadhan mubarak, may Allah guide you on the sirat ul mustakeem.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:54 PM
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:56 PM
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What are those then?

Faith in god is wrong. Prayer is foolish. etc.

In what way to I worship this idea?
You adhere to them, espouse them and are evidently happy to debate their merit. You believe strongly and deeply in what you say. I don't think you would ever admit you're wrong and in fact are passionate that you're right.

Precisely how do I go about engaging in such an invocation?
If you have to ask... but seriously, the suggestion is that you have a belief system as well.

Fascinating. What is the stricture of that philosophy, just so I know that I'm not doing it wrong?
See above. I might have taken the analogy too far, but you have to admit, you're as bad as a priest with the answers for everything.

Damn, and you had such insight into the rest of me... ahem... religion. It's very simple: The difference between atheism and theism is the letter "A" which as a prefix means "no". I don't believe in god while theists, by definition, do. You're welcome.
Well, call it what you like but your thoughts seem pretty organized and your opinion steadfast.

So what's the beef then?
No beef, just making an analogy between your system and those you don't like.

Ah now there you're dead wrong. Atheism doesn't have the answers. But a sceptical individual tends to have the right tools to go and look for the answers, instead of accepting what you're told they are as long as your instructor tells you in a strong clear voice.
But you have no problem pointing out that everybody else is wrong. Unless, presumably, they agree with you.

I'm not posting threads asking people for approval for how terribly pious my fornicating dope smoking ass is.
Cool.

I have faith that if I don't go to the toilet soon I will be having turtle's head.
I hear that.
And on that note: Peace.
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Absolutely not. I am in no way insulting islam. Not exclusively. I am insulting religion, including buddhism, christianity, jainism, hinduism, sihkism and ba'hai.

It doesn't take a huge amount of self control to not eat anything between certain times.
Cut the crap, you hate Islam and all Muslims.. you always post in any muslim related thread with your anti-Islam ideas.. stop putting roses on it like you don't have a hatred for people of religion, especially muslims.

It takes serious self control to not take food or water for more than 12 hours, especially for people in tropical climates.



Good luck to the brother fasting.
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