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Old 08-09-2010, 01:37 PM
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What is your top 20 pound for pound?
I know there is probably thousands of these threads but I always like the opinions of diiferent people or updated lists

I am new to boxing and the forums and I'm going to give my opinion on the top 20 pound for pound, if you diagree with my list feel free to comment

1.Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Willie Pep
4. Joe Louis
5. Archie Moore
6. Muhammad Ali/ Cassius Clay
7. Benny Leonard
8. Roberto Duran
9. Harry Greb
10. Joe Gans
11. Gene Tunney
12. Ezzard Charles
13.Pernell Whitaker
14.Julio Cesar Chavez
15. Sandy Sandler
16. Marvelous Marvin Hagler (Real name is Marvelous =] )
17. Sugar Ray Leonard
18. Stanley Ketchel
19. Rocky Marciano
20. Carlos Monzon

Please feel free to discuss mine, or others lists.
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Old 08-09-2010, 01:41 PM
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1.Ray Robinson
2.Muhammad Ali
3.Harry Greb
4.Sam Langford
5.Henry Armstrong
6.Willie Pep
7.Carlos Monzon
8.Ricardo Lopez
9.Joe Louis
10.Archie Moore
11.Pernell Whitaker
12.Benny Leonard
13.Eder Jofre
14.Joe Gans
15.Ray Leonard
16.Roberto Duran
17.Rocky Marciano
18.Dick Tiger
19.Ezzard Charles
20.Tony Canzoneri
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Don't like putting HW into p4p lists.

No particular order

Sugar Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Sam Langford
Ezzard Charles
Benny Leonard
Eder Jofre
Joe Gans
Willie Pep
Bob Fitzsimmons
Harry Greb

Can't put a number to any of my top 10.

11. Archie Moore
12. Roberto Duran
13. Sugar Ray Leonard
14. Alexis Arguello
15. Barney Ross
16. Marvin Hagler
17. Jimmy Wilde
18. Miguel Canto
19. Holman Williams
20. Sandy Saddler

Don't really like making lists past 10, constantly changing.

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Old 08-09-2010, 04:35 PM
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1. Sam Langford
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Young Peter Jackson
4. Mike Tyson
5. James Toney
6. Ray Robinson
7. Chris Byrd
8. Charley Burley
9. Harry Greb
10. Barney Ross


11. Tony Canzoneri
12. Roberto Duran
13. Ray Leonard
14. Marvin Hagler
15. Lou Ambers
16. Julio Cesar Chavez
17. Hector Camacho
18. Jorge Fernando Castro
19. Marlon Starling
20. Manny Pacquiao


21. Salvador Sanchez
22. Ronald Wright
23. Ike Quartery
24. Juan Manuel Marquez
25. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
26. Shane Mosley
27. Simon Brown
28. Jose Luis Lopez
29. Orlin Norris
30. Oscar Delahoya
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:50 PM
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1. Sam Langford
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Young Peter Jackson
4. Mike Tyson
5. James Toney
6. Ray Robinson
7. Chris Byrd
8. Charley Burley
9. Harry Greb
10. Barney Ross


11. Tony Canzoneri
12. Roberto Duran
13. Ray Leonard
14. Marvin Hagler
15. Lou Ambers
16. Julio Cesar Chavez
17. Hector Camacho
18. Jorge Fernando Castro
19. Marlon Starling
20. Manny Pacquiao


21. Salvador Sanchez
22. Ronald Wright
23. Ike Quartery
24. Juan Manuel Marquez
25. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
26. Shane Mosley
27. Simon Brown
28. Jose Luis Lopez
29. Orlin Norris
30. Oscar Delahoya
This ain't hatin, but will you just explain some of them picks. Come on......

Chris Byrd, James Toney,& Mike Tyson Over Greb, Duran, Leonard, Ross?

Jorge Fernando Castro at number #18? LMAO.......

Orlin Norris at number #29?

Young Peter Jackson at #3?

But yet were's Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Rocky Maricano, Pernell Whitaker, Carlos Monzon, Alexis Arguello, Joe Gans, Jimmy Wilde, Larry Holmes, George Foreman etc etc?

I think it could be a strong possiblity you just random these out of a hat. And am being serious.............
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This ain't hatin, but will you just explain some of them picks. Come on......

Chris Byrd, James Toney,& Mike Tyson Over Greb, Duran, Leonard, Ross?

Jorge Fernando Castro at number #18? LMAO.......

Orlin Norris at number #29?

Young Peter Jackson at #3?

But yet were's Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Rocky Maricano, Pernell Whitaker, Carlos Monzon, Alexis Arguello, Joe Gans, Jimmy Wilde, Larry Holmes, George Foreman etc etc?
In general , all my picks you criticized are men whom fought successfully against top class opponents with unlimited size advantage over them.
This proves they fulfill the definition of P4P in the clearest manner.

It will not be hard for you to do the boxrecing yourself and see against who did these men fight against and how tough they were (admit I still haven't seen Tyson's losses to Williams and McBride , the loss t Lewis i m not sure , and if i did , it was long ago , or partial ) .

Orlin Norris fights are extremely hard to get , and for Young Peter Jackson ,
the answer is obvious .

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I think it could be a strong possiblity you just random these out of a hat. And am being serious.............
Really resembles picking from a hat : picking from my limited memory and knowledge about the old time 118-175lbers .
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Old 08-10-2010, 06:39 AM
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Don't like putting HW into p4p lists.

No particular order

Sugar Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Sam Langford
Ezzard Charles
Benny Leonard
Eder Jofre
Joe Gans
Willie Pep
Bob Fitzsimmons
Harry Greb

Can't put a number to any of my top 10.

11. Archie Moore
12. Roberto Duran
13. Sugar Ray Leonard
14. Alexis Arguello
15. Barney Ross
16. Marvin Hagler
17. Jimmy Wilde
18. Miguel Canto
19. Holman Williams
20. Ricardo Lopez

Don't really like making lists past 10, constantly changing.
Oops forgot Sam Langford put him in at 5 and make Monzon joint 20. with Marciano.
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1-Sugar Ray Robinson 175-19-6(1) (109 KOs)
2-Muhammad Ali 56-5(1) (37 KOs)
3-Henry Armstrong 149-21(2)-10 (101 KOs)
4-Joe Louis 66-3(2) (52 KOs)
5-Harry Greb 103-8(2)-3 (48 KOs)
6-Willie Pepp 229-11(6)-1 (65 KOs)
7-Benny Leonard 91-5(4)-1 (71 KOs)
8-Gene Tunney 66-1-1 (48 KOs)
9-Sam Langford 180-34(9)-38 (127 KOs)
10-Joe Gans 138-10(5)-15 (96 KOs)
11- Rocky Marciano 49-0 (43 KOs)
12-Archie Moore 185-23(7)-11 (131 KOs)
13-Sugar Ray Leonard 36-3(1)-1 (25 KOs)
14-Carlos Monzon 87-3-9 (59 KOs)
15-Jack Johnson 73-13(7)-9 (40 KOs)
16-Tony Canzoneri 141-24(1)-10 (44 KOs)
17-Jimmy Wilde 137-5(4)-2 (99 KOs)
18-Jack Dempsey 66-6(1)-11 (51 KOs)
19-Pernell Whitaker 40-4(1)-1 (17 KOs)
20-Roberto Duran 103-16(4) (70 KOs)
21-Ezzard Charles 93-25(7)-1 (52 KOs)
22-Mickey Walker 131-27(6)-5 (59 KOs)
23-Manny Pacquiao 51-3(2)-2 (38 KOs)
24-Julio Cesar Chavez 107-6(4)-2 (86 KOs)
25-Sandy Saddler 144-16(1)-2 (103 KOs)

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