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Old 07-19-2010, 08:11 AM #1
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Default The two GOATs of MMA - forget these so called new breeds

I think that once you truely know the history of MMA and its fighters, you start appreciating the quality of fighters from all ages (none of these new breeds garbage). Fedor and Igor are truely the GOATs of MMA. Some interesting things between the two is that both Fedor and Igor uses the same casting punch (I think it was even called the Igor punch by the Japanese - way before Fedor came along), both have trouble with breaking/injuring their hands, both with a Sambo (Igor more kickboxing based and Fedor more grappling based) background and both originally from Ukrain.

IGOR
Kickboxing: 61 wins 2 looses
MMA: 49 wins 10 looses (30 straight wins and most of his losses came at the back end of his long career)



FEDOR

Sambo: 12 gold medals and 4 bronze in Sambo; 2 bronze in Judo
MMA: 32 wins 2 looses (28 straight wins and one of his loss should have been a "No Contest"




Both guys are super cool, here is a video of both GOATs sharing Vodka.
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Old 07-19-2010, 09:03 AM #2
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^^

The Japanese dude is saying Igor isn't drinking that much, mainly just him and Fedor are drinking. At the end of the video, Igor says through the interpreter that he has to get up early the next morning.

And nice thread.
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Lol funny that.
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Old 07-19-2010, 10:34 AM #4
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Igor is one of my all time favorites, funny story I read about him and his younger days was that the village would ring a bell whenever he got drunk so that people would know to stay out of his way, don't know if it's true or not but I found it funny...
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Old 07-19-2010, 11:09 AM #5
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I'm sorry,but when did Igor Vovchanchyn suddenly become "GOAT"?



Did you come to this conclusion after watching Tra Telligman thoroughly outclass him,or just after watching him be utterly humiliated by Mario Sperry?


His whole legacy is based on scoring a fairly decisive knockout over Francisco Bueno.It was a nice knockout and it's made the highlight reels ever since.


However,it's worth noting that he always lost to someone with half decent technique.
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i open the thread and expecting royce gracie...

but you can't go wrong with Igor.. one of my favorite Pride fighters..
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Igor and Fedor are two of my all-time favorites too. Royce Gracie is a great of his era as well and I loved watching Ken and Frank Shamrock compete when they were in their primes.
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I think Marco Ruas was the first complete fighter, so I rank him above Igor among the guys from the early days even though he wasn't as dominant.
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Igor and Ruas guys?

The guys were great at the time, but as MMA has progressed it is obvious that these guys were simply pioneers... Not necessarily the most skilled or best.

I'd put Fedor, GSP, Anderson in the GOAT list of MMA

and.... I think it's dumb to make a GOAT list when the sport is less than 20 years old
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