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Old 07-14-2010, 10:11 AM
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Mayweather cleaned out 130 and won titles in 5 weight classes. He always fought the official WBC champions and never made any catchweight demands. He just said "Put them in front of me and I will beat them"

Yes the Castillo fight was controversial but he went to the rematch and set the record straight. What did Pacquiao do after Morales beat him? He waited until Morales lost to Raheem at 135 and then fought him at 130 and ducked Raheem. Which was a ***** move, Mayweather didnt wait for Castillo to lose. He gave him an immediate rematch.


lol @ Floyd "Put them in front of me and I will beat them" GTFOH with that bull****. Floyd will go down as the biggest ducker in the history of boxing. Please don't delude yourself


This great fighter still has no prime HOFers on his resume. Sorry bud.
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:12 AM
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Joe Calzaghe is a perfect parallel to Mayweather. Hopkins and RJJ are both first ballot HOFers. But do you give Joe Calzaghe credit for his wins over them? Nope. Floyd is undefeated you say? So is Joe. Unlike Floyd Joe doesn't have a controversial loss(Castillo). Joe is also 46-0. Floyd's got some catching up to do.

Hopkins and RJJ are the DLH and Mosley of Mayweather's resume. Take those 2 away. Mayweather does not have a single HOFer on his resume that he fought in their weight class.




Boom.


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But Floyd is a Black American. That lends him credibility he wouldn't have other wise. His blind bat fans(mostly American) will hold up his skills and even though he's not a dynamic fighter.... he does not have any KO power.... his fights have no replay value.
hate to say this but your right......except hatton stands out
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lol @ Floyd "Put them in front of me and I will beat them" GTFOH with that bull****. Floyd will go down as the biggest ducker in the history of boxing. Please don't delude yourself


This great fighter still has no prime HOFers on his resume. Sorry bud.
Dude if you discount jk1700's last post then its clear you do not know enough about boxing to have this discussion.
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:13 AM
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Hall of famers?

Shane Mosley
Oscar De La Hoya
Genaro Hernandez
Jose Luis Castillo
Diego Corrales

And he fought all of them at their best weight classes, He didnt make them fight at catchweights. All of these fighters were also coming off career defining wins, Not devastating losses like most of Pacquiao's opponents.

He's 1-1 with Castillo. Even at that Castillo is not a lock.

Corrales is not in the HOF. He won't be. He's just a good fighter but not great.

He was Genaro Hernandez's last fight. LOL @ him being prime.


Keep them coming....
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:14 AM
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Joe Calzaghe is a perfect parallel to Mayweather. Hopkins and RJJ are both first ballot HOFers. But do you give Joe Calzaghe credit for his wins over them? Nope. Floyd is undefeated you say? So is Joe. Unlike Floyd Joe doesn't have a controversial loss(Castillo). Joe is also 46-0. Floyd's got some catching up to do.

Hopkins and RJJ are the DLH and Mosley of Mayweather's resume. Take those 2 away. Mayweather does not have a single HOFer on his resume that he fought in their weight class.




Boom.


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But Floyd is a Black American. That lends him credibility he wouldn't have other wise. His blind bat fans(mostly American) will hold up his skills and even though he's not a dynamic fighter.... he does not have any KO power.... his fights have no replay value.
The difference is Floyd Mayweather's resume is by FAR alot better than Calzaghes resume.

Floyd Mayweather has beaten:

Shane Mosley
Oscar De La Hoya
Ricky Hatton
Juan Manuel Marquez
Diego Corrales
Arturo Gatti
Jose Luis Castillo
Zab Judah

Calzaghe has beaten:

Mikkel Kessler
Jeff Lacy
Chris Eubank
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones Jr(who was 40 years old and totally shot)

Lol it's not even close. Floyd Mayweather>>>>>>>>>>Joe Calslappy

The only people who actually think Calzaghe was a great fighter are the Brits. Calzaghe is a NOBODY in the U.S.
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:15 AM
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hate to say this but your right......except hatton stands out
He made Hatton come up in weight. Would he have beaten Hatton at 140? He would be KOed by dehydration.

Same with JMM.



Pac fought both of them in their weight class.



Hatton isn't a HOF lock either.
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:16 AM
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lol @ this tool. I put controversial loss on purpose. It was a play on words. Graduate high school first before you critique others.
Play on words?

You are a stupid wanker.

You are a joke.
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:18 AM
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Hopkins - Past Prime

Kessler and Lacy were both prime.

Lacy was exposed as a C level fighter.

Kessler is his best win.
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He made Hatton come up in weight. Would he have beaten Hatton at 140? He would be KOed by dehydration.

Same with JMM.



Pac fought both of them in their weight class.



Hatton isn't a HOF lock either.
yea that's what i mean, hatton and marquez stand out cuz they moved up

joe never had anyone move up from what i remember
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:19 AM
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The difference is Floyd Mayweather's resume is by FAR alot better than Calzaghes resume.

Floyd Mayweather has beaten:

Shane Mosley
Oscar De La Hoya
Ricky Hatton
Juan Manuel Marquez
Diego Corrales
Arturo Gatti
Jose Luis Castillo
Zab Judah

Calzaghe has beaten:

Mikkel Kessler
Jeff Lacy
Chris Eubank
Bernard Hopkins
Roy Jones Jr(who was 40 years old and totally shot)

Lol it's not even close. Floyd Mayweather>>>>>>>>>>Joe Calslappy

The only people who actually think Calzaghe was a great fighter are the Brits. Calzaghe is a NOBODY in the U.S.


LOL @ Gatti

LOL @ Judah



Just because they are known American fighters don't make them actual great fighters. Come back to reality son. 1 guy is an overhyped slugger known for his wars with Mickey Ward and the other dude is just an overhyped never was.


He made Ricky come up in weight. Ricky is not a HOF lock.

He made JMM come up 2 weight classes and he still didn't make weight. On top of JMM being shot already. What would happen if he fought JMM at 135 like Pac did? FMM would be coming out on a stretcher.



DLH and Mosley I already addressed. Mosley is 40 as well. Oscar was already shot to pieces. He went life and death with Steve Forbes.



The only thing the Mosley fight proved to me was if Shane had been in his prime, he would've finished Floyd in the 2nd.


DLH would've decisioned floyd. Even a shell of his former self took him to a split decision.

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