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Old 07-03-2010, 12:04 PM
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2 Champions Leagues

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But no world cups







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Old 07-03-2010, 12:05 PM
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When did Messi win two UCL titles? He didn't even play in the 2006 final.
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Old 07-03-2010, 12:06 PM
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He still has 2 more world cups in him, dudes still young
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Old 07-03-2010, 12:08 PM
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When did Messi win two UCL titles? He didn't even play in the 2006 final.
He played in the tournament that year.
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Old 07-03-2010, 12:11 PM
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He played in the tournament that year.
Yea and what

He wasn't that good in 2006 and didn't play in the final. He was given the title just because he played in the tournament. Wasn't influential as people think he was
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Old 07-03-2010, 12:22 PM
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No, not at all...
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Maradona didn't put him in his position.
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2 Champions Leagues

4 La Liga titles

2 player of the year

47 goals 2009/2010

All at 23 years of age



next?

Before you troll my thread to death let me explain my point so you can understand what this thread is about....

People talk about Messi as if he is one of the greatest players ever, Im not saying he isnt a world class player but one of the best ever? Im sorry but he isnt. Ok so he has a great record for Barca but any top class striker would score 20-30 goals a season for them. Frank Lampard scored 27 goals last season from MIDFIELD but where is the props for him? Messi does great for Barca but he does NOTHING for Argentina. What is it ONE penalty he has scored in 21 games? That's shocking.

And I dont buy the excuse that "Maradona doesnt play him in his best position" because he is the best player in the team and Maradona loves him and vice versa. Of course he will play him in his best position but Messi always comes deep and ends up out of position. That's his own fault, You can't blame that on Maradona. Messi just hasnt cut it at International football and you need to if you are going to be considered "One of the greatest players of all time".

He might be the best player in the world but he is still overrated.

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Old 07-03-2010, 12:23 PM
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I think he is to a minor extent.

Ronaldo does far more with far less.

That's not to detract away from him. Some players just thrive on the international stage and some in the club stage
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Old 07-03-2010, 12:32 PM
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I think he is to a minor extent.

Ronaldo does far more with far less.

That's not to detract away from him. Some players just thrive on the international stage and some in the club stage
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Old 07-03-2010, 12:32 PM
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I think he is to a minor extent.

Ronaldo does far more with far less.

That's not to detract away from him. Some players just thrive on the international stage and some in the club stage
But that's my problem, People talk about him as one of the greatest players ever but he has never done it on the international stage. That's not taking anything away from him but all of truly great players had excellent international careers. Players like Zidane and Ronaldo had amazing international careers, Messi has not.
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Old 07-03-2010, 12:38 PM
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I love how Boxing fans do the same to all athletes as they do to fighters, they just see a bad performance and thats it he's over-rated. Useless all along haha this is ridiculous. In 5 years we'll be talking about how he's the greatest ever, just give it time
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