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Old 06-20-2010, 11:18 AM
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So we're supposed to believe people who's "holy book" says that they should lie to "infidels"? :rofl9:

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so UN agencies and the free media which conveyed different information from what israel said are controlled by hamas ..............ok , keep going .
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:25 AM
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so UN agencies and the free media which conveyed different information from what israel said are controlled by hamas ..............ok , keep going .
The UN is run by 3rd world sh1tholes that are in sympathy with the Islamofacists.....as for the so-called "free media" it's no secret that the media around the world is a hot-bed for leftists and their fellow-travellers. How can you tell when leftists are lying? When their lips are moving. A lefty is incapable of saying anything that isn't propoganda for their perverted ideology.

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Old 06-20-2010, 11:42 AM
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So we're supposed to believe people who's "holy book" says that they should lie to "infidels"? :rofl9:

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The Qur’an does not teach it is Ok to Lie or to kill non-aggressive non-believers. There are a few verses that indicate that it is sometimes ok to hide the truth but only in extreme cases. These allowances are only for your own safety, for example if someone is killing all the Muslims in an area and they say are you Muslim and you say no this lie wouldn’t be held against you because it is reached under duress. It does allow for violence against non-believers only in defense of your home, life or country as well as defense of those unable to defend themselves. However the Qur’an is very clear that we are not to be aggressors.
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:48 AM
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Bad analogy considering the blockade runners were also radical lefties like their sponser McKinney AND they were also sponsered by known Islamofascist groups opporating out of Turkey. Radical Reds + Radical Suicide Bombers = Bad News. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out just what kind of "aid" they were bringing.

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I had aid on those ships you want to see the video of the aid that hasn't passed through yet?



On top of that I had wheelchair batteries and chargers for those. I had some books and DVDs for the World Cup. I knew where eveything was going it was addressed for specific clinics and a disbled person's centre.

If there were any armaments on the boats the Israeli government would have publicised it as best as they can by now and they have not. All they have publicised is the pepper sprays the forces found on the boats.

So you must be wrong unless the Israeli government is keeping arms being smuggled into Gaza by aid organisations out of the media so that more arms come in.

Do you think thats what the Israeli goivernment does?

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Old 06-20-2010, 11:50 AM
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you're conveying what israel is saying word by word .nobody expects israel to tell the truth and expose itself .i'm not going into details but believing israel's lies is as stupid as making them.
In other words you have absolutely no answer to the comments I have made so instead you utter vague accusations of propaganda or of naiveté.

This is why it's frustrating to try and argue with people who are incapable of formulating their own arguments and have arrived at their position by adopting the opinions of demagogues based on a desire to belong instead of on logical reasoning.

You're incapable of providing specific examples of laws broken, for example, or of countering what I am suggesting with any sort of source of logic. Instead you repeat the lie, laughably accuse me of "ignorance" and occasionally post a youtube video (which I refuse to watch - if you can't be bothered formulating your own response I can't be bothered watching propaganda videos from al-jazeera).
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Old 06-20-2010, 02:33 PM
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Poet, Squeally, What do you have to say about the fact that random stuff like chocolate, coriander, Jam, canned fruit and juices are banned?

This is an example of wanting to make people suffer, or in other words, Collective punishment.

How about you give up on the Fox News "Islamo-fascist" mumbo jumbo and stick to the points, rather than dancing around them
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Old 06-20-2010, 02:44 PM
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Of course it's true that "might is right", really that's the only law. But if you're going to declare everything that Israel does to be "illegal" it helps to know which laws are being allegedly broken.

they think israel existing is illegal.
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Old 06-20-2010, 02:59 PM
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they think israel existing is illegal.
If thats the truth then "they" are worse than Hamas.

Hamas policy is to cease fire and recognise Israel if it withdraws to the 1967 borders outlined in UN resolution 242.
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Old 06-20-2010, 05:26 PM
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Poet, Squeally, What do you have to say about the fact that random stuff like chocolate, coriander, Jam, canned fruit and juices are banned?
I think it's ridiculous, which is why I am so enthusiastic that the Israeli cabinet has voted to relax the restrictions. Why aren't you happy that the restrictions have been relaxed? I'd have thought that anybody who had any feelings for the Palestinian people would be happy about this but perhaps unsurprisingly all I have seen about this is more criticism.

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How about you give up on the Fox News "Islamo-fascist" mumbo jumbo and stick to the points, rather than dancing around them
Point to one thing that I have said that has come from Fox News. Go on, one thing.
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