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Old 06-13-2010, 11:30 PM
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for example the difference between mayweather and leonard.
Well who do you consider Legends??
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Old 06-13-2010, 11:32 PM
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well leonard didnt give marvin his rematch..............but i agree....hes levels above floyd resume wise.....so legendary > atg.....do i get you right.....or does legendary somehow equate to culturAl impact they had.....example ALI, Arguello, chavez????
then there's the elitists, so far only 4 qualify including henry armstrong as well):





This position is impossible to achieve in the 21st century due to the erosion of boxing

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Old 06-13-2010, 11:34 PM
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Well who do you consider Legends??
what do you mean by name or qualities?

A perfect example is the difference between mayweather and leonard.

Another example is the difference between joe calzaghe and roy jones jr.

roy jones jr would still be higher on a list than mayweather BTW.

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Old 06-13-2010, 11:37 PM
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Old 06-13-2010, 11:38 PM
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then there's the elitists, so far only three qualify(arguably henry armstrong as well):





This position is impossible to achieve in the 21st century.
i dont quite follow???....legendary means what????..........................elitist means what for you exactly???............so its an upper echelon ATG???
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Old 06-13-2010, 11:42 PM
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i dont quite follow???....legendary means what????..........................elitist means what for you exactly???............so its an upper echelon ATG???
Even if you do become legendary, there is a lot of work needed to get up to elitist level.
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Old 06-13-2010, 11:43 PM
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for example the difference between mayweather and leonard.
Both are ATG's.
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Old 06-13-2010, 11:45 PM
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Even if you do become legendary, there is a lot of work needed to get up to elitist level.
Top 5 greatest fighters of all time in no particular order

Ray Robinson
Henry Armstrong
Harry Greb
Willie Pep
Benny Leonard.

But, all this is opinionated. So what you saying doesn't really count cuz it is an opinion.
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Old 06-13-2010, 11:45 PM
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Even if you do become legendary, there is a lot of work needed to get up to elitist level.
no disrespect to ALI.....what/when exactly did he achieved that status???................post rumble or post thrilla???.......................
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Old 06-13-2010, 11:45 PM
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Both are ATG's.
one is legendary, the other isn't IMO.
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