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Old 06-06-2010, 02:15 PM
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Both these fighters are warriors having taken on any opponent put in front of them. I have the utmost respect for both of them..

Congrats first to Cotto for beating Yuri but this win just reminds me too much of when Taylor beat Lacy or RJJ beat Trinidad and Anthony Hanshaw. Just confidence builders, nothing more or less. Put him in the ring with the likes of an elite fighter such as Williams, Martinez and Pac and he'll get toasted, honestly. His chin has been checked and failed the test first against Margarito then Pac, and these guys will take full advantage of it (Pac again).

Kellerman knows this and was so right when he said Cotto should take a step down from the big fights. I agree too, he should take a leaf out of Taylor's books because if he steps it up from here (with a weak chin) we'll be looking at him face up in the 12th round just like Taylor vs Abraham or a bloody mess (again) just like RJJ vs Calzaghe. He's fought the best and should just take the easy road from here I suggest, or he'll end up a slurring mess later on in his life.
cotto has never been KTFO 3x in a row. your analogy fails.
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:26 AM
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cotto has never been KTFO 3x in a row. your analogy fails.
If you're going to be that literal about it, neither has Taylor.
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:29 AM
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Both these fighters are warriors having taken on any opponent put in front of them. I have the utmost respect for both of them..

Congrats first to Cotto for beating Yuri but this win just reminds me too much of when Taylor beat Lacy or RJJ beat Trinidad and Anthony Hanshaw. Just confidence builders, nothing more or less. Put him in the ring with the likes of an elite fighter such as Williams, Martinez and Pac and he'll get toasted, honestly. His chin has been checked and failed the test first against Margarito then Pac, and these guys will take full advantage of it (Pac again).

Kellerman knows this and was so right when he said Cotto should take a step down from the big fights. I agree too, he should take a leaf out of Taylor's books because if he steps it up from here (with a weak chin) we'll be looking at him face up in the 12th round just like Taylor vs Abraham or a bloody mess (again) just like RJJ vs Calzaghe. He's fought the best and should just take the easy road from here I suggest, or he'll end up a slurring mess later on in his life.
Cotto's losses had nothing to do with a "weak" chin. He won another belt in another division and I would consider this a better win than RJJ win over Trinidad and Taylors win over Lacy. Maybe people were saying Cotto was going to lose. Everyone knew RJJ and Taylor were gonna win those fights. But I do think Cotto would get destroyed if he fought Martinez at 154. All this fight showed was that Cotto is still a top level fighter.
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:31 AM
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cotto is in a division where he'll never be able to dominate. just aint gonna happen with williams and martinez around. i think the best fight for him next is berto honestly. thats a fight that he could win and it would boost his resume considerably. he cannot, and i repeat, cannot, beat the top fighters at either 147 or 154.
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:40 AM
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I have to disagree with you.

A lot of people on here felt Cotto was shot and would lose to Yuri because Yuri would be too much for Cotto to handle.

Cotto was in the best shape of his life and put on his best performance in the last few years. This is the first time he actually was comfortable in training camp and has a real trainer with experience in his corner.

Cotto is not an elite fighter anymore and he's not in his prime anymore, but he can still beat a lot top guys.

You don't think he can beat guys like Berto, Williams, Margacheato, etc? How many guys can beat guys like Manny, Floyd, and Martinez? Only Floyd can beat Manny at 147 and Martinez at 154 or 160.
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:40 AM
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maybe cotto needs to be in there with chavez jr. ;
i mean it's sad... but it would be a fairly easy fight for him.

he should maybe lay low for a bit.
he's had a couple of wars/bad beatings throughout his career.

or fight berto, marg and call it quits?
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:46 AM
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maybe cotto needs to be in there with chavez jr. ;
i mean it's sad... but it would be a fairly easy fight for him.

he should maybe lay low for a bit.
he's had a couple of wars/bad beatings throughout his career.

or fight berto, marg and call it quits?
Chavez JR would get the same beating Alfonso Gomez got against Cotto.
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:52 AM
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Chavez JR would get the same beating Alfonso Gomez got against Cotto.
i know man. that's why i believe it's sad.
and i dont understand how bob arum has placed him as an option before martinez, wtf?

but unless cotto is planning on retiring in a year or two,
lower competitions must be faced;

but i would much rather see him face andre berto, then margs.
then retire
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:54 AM
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I agree in someway with the TS, he might loose as soon as he step in, but I really think Foreman was a good win. Cotto might perform well against Williams. he might even beat him, he should stay away from Martinez.
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:57 AM
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i know man. that's why i believe it's sad.
and i dont understand how bob arum has placed him as an option before martinez, wtf?

but unless cotto is planning on retiring in a year or two,
lower competitions must be faced;

but i would much rather see him face andre berto, then margs.
then retire
Arum is not stupid to put Cotto in the ring against Martinez after he saw what Martinez did to Kelly.

Arum and Chavez's JR. camp really protect the kid and no way they put him in the ring against Cotto, unless they want Cotto to expose the kid as a C-level fighter, who lives off his daddy's name.
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