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Old 06-10-2010, 07:07 AM #21
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Urine testing is the most reliable method is is also the method used by teh military. Olympic style drug testing requests is just a copout for fighters who wants to duck other fighters
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Blood Test Can Cause Significant Injury

Posted by Denise A. Rubin
June 05, 2006 3:51 PM

What would you say to someone who told you that having a blood test could cause a major and debilitating injury? Most people don't realize that the smallest invasion of the body, such as a needle stick for a blood draw, can have a whole panoply of dangers associated. Nerve and other injuries from negligent blood draws are sufficiently prevalent that a new area of specialty practice in arm surgery has developed to treat these cases.

According to an article in the New York Times on June 5, 2006, there are no studies showing how often patients are hurt during routine blood draws, but a 1996 study of blood donors (a larger needle is used in blood donation than in routine venipuncture) found that 1 in 6,300 donors suffered a nerve injury.

Phlebotomy-related injuries have become common enough in recent years that there are now specialists who make a living teaching health care providers how to avoid lawsuits provoked by the procedure.

Dennis Ernst, director of the Center for Phlebotomy Education, says the risks of the procedure include nerve injuries and chronic pain syndromes that can render you disabled for life. He likes to warn patients that some technicians have only a weekend of training -- practicing on a dummy arm on Saturday and sticking your vein on Monday.

See New York Times Article
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/30/he...case.html?_r=1
1 in 6300 people get injured.We dont have such a high number of boxers so that means statistically no boxer would get injured.Secondly the USADA people are specialists in this area so the risk is further reduced.
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There are always risks, u are free to do want u want to do but we should respect others decision not to take the risk.
so u respect floyd for not taking the risk that his oponents are on roids and could possibly hurt him due to its effects?

comparing the two risks its obvious to anybody with a brain what needs to be done, ppl have died in the ring ffs. are u telling me letting fighters roid up and get in the ring like savages and possibly kill someone is a risk worth taking rather then the risk of a blood test?
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If u stop eating ul die. If u avoid blood testing u still live.
Yeeeeeaaaaaah....? You can walk down the street and someone coughs on you and BAM! ****ing meningococcal brain hemorrhage and you're dead in less than fifteen seconds.

This is the stupidest post on earth and you should put down immediately with a blood test.
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Old 06-10-2010, 09:26 AM #25
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I told u guys blood testing is too risky especiallyy for pro boxers.
Not only should you be put down with a blood test, but you were too stupid to read your own damn article properly. It states that the reason people are injured is because too often there are only weekend courses in which folks learn to do various types of injection and the syringes used are of a much greater diameter than what would be used in pro sport testing, which would also be done by the highest level of certified tester. The only stats were taken from a blood donor survey, in which unqualified people and larger diameter syringes are used.

Ie. Much bigger syringe used by retard (such as one similar to whoever posted this thread) who has next to no experience in using them and yes, the possibility is there, however minimal, for them to stick a nerve ganglion or shove it up their ass....1 in 6300 people have minor trouble with injection, done by retards with no training and huge needles. That's a little bit different than this case. Go back to searching google for stuff.


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comparing the two risks its obvious to anybody with a brain what needs to be done, ppl have died in the ring ffs. are u telling me letting fighters roid up and get in the ring like savages and possibly kill someone is a risk worth taking rather then the risk of a blood test?
this shyt only makes sense to a pacquiao fan.
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Blood Test Can Cause Significant Injury

Posted by Denise A. Rubin
June 05, 2006 3:51 PM

What would you say to someone who told you that having a blood test could cause a major and debilitating injury? Most people don't realize that the smallest invasion of the body, such as a needle stick for a blood draw, can have a whole panoply of dangers associated. Nerve and other injuries from negligent blood draws are sufficiently prevalent that a new area of specialty practice in arm surgery has developed to treat these cases.

According to an article in the New York Times on June 5, 2006, there are no studies showing how often patients are hurt during routine blood draws, but a 1996 study of blood donors (a larger needle is used in blood donation than in routine venipuncture) found that 1 in 6,300 donors suffered a nerve injury.

Phlebotomy-related injuries have become common enough in recent years that there are now specialists who make a living teaching health care providers how to avoid lawsuits provoked by the procedure.

Dennis Ernst, director of the Center for Phlebotomy Education, says the risks of the procedure include nerve injuries and chronic pain syndromes that can render you disabled for life. He likes to warn patients that some technicians have only a weekend of training -- practicing on a dummy arm on Saturday and sticking your vein on Monday.

See New York Times Article
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/30/he...case.html?_r=1
It must not be such pressing issue since the last time it was studied was 14 years ago...
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That is just terrible! How many Olympians have been injured cause of this?
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That is just terrible! How many Olympians have been injured cause of this?

Seriously am going to tear the remaining hair on my head out!!! The level of dumbness regarding a simple blood test is astonishing, I cannot take this anymore.
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I will say this, the other day I donated blood like I often do. It was very early int he morning before work and after I ate and worked for about 9 hours. Then I went home and ate again, rested a little and about 7:30 went to the gym.

My wife told me I should have stayed home but I felt fine. I didn't feel weak or anything so I went to train like I always do on those days.

After initial warm ups and some bag work, I had to stop. I got light headed and got very weak. I know it was the blood taken out and it was weird how it affected me that way.

I ended up cutting the work out short and going home. Blood can take a lot out of you, then again it was the same day and the next day I was fine.
You ****ing moron! Donating blood is ten times (it's actually more!) the amount you need to give compared to a blood test for drug sampling! Jesus H. Mutha****ing Christ!

Why are people so stupid on this board?

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