Khan and Ortiz are gonna divide and conquer: GBP's master plan... - Boxing Forum
Boxing Forum
Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-03-2010, 01:26 PM #1
tito_bandito tito_bandito is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,881
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Rep Power: 11
tito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,000,433,265.47
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 10,000,433,265.47
cheers bro - chiguy91 
Gay and Lesbian Pride - ThePuertoRican 
Default Khan and Ortiz are gonna divide and conquer: GBP's master plan...

I honestly see these two fighters (Ortiz and Khan) building up to future fights with Timothy Bradley and Devon Alexander which will happen by the end of this year or the beginning of the next. Amir Khan is set to face Casamayor in July before Ramedan takes place, and Team Ortiz is working on setting up a rematch with Maidana in mid to late august. Maidana will have no choice but to face Ortiz again. The reason why I say this is because Bradley is set to fight Abregu in July, Alexander is set to face Koltelnik, and Khan has a fight set up with Casamayor. There will be no excuse for Maidana not to take this fight, because his back injury should be cured by that time as well. I honestly see a conspiracy about this whole thing. Maybe Khan is just doing business and doesn't want to face Maidana to allow Victor Ortiz to have the opportunity to redeem himself? I think GBP has business meetings with both Khan and Ortiz to get both their careers on the go. GBP is going to let Ortiz and Khan divide and conquer 140 and possibly do the same at 147. It's the perfect plot to start milking money out of their cash cows. I can see Ortiz and Khan splitting the belts amongst themselves. At the semi finals of this 140 pound unoficial tournament we will see Khan vs Bradley and Ortiz vs Alexander and winners meet up to unite the belts, but knowing GBP they might have Ortiz and Khan get more resume padding before going on with a PPV in this match up. Your thoughts?
tito_bandito is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
Old 06-03-2010, 01:29 PM #2
Pullcounter Pullcounter is offline
no guts no glory
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 42,727
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Rep Power: 102
Pullcounter has a reputation beyond reputePullcounter has a reputation beyond reputePullcounter has a reputation beyond reputePullcounter has a reputation beyond reputePullcounter has a reputation beyond reputePullcounter has a reputation beyond reputePullcounter has a reputation beyond reputePullcounter has a reputation beyond reputePullcounter has a reputation beyond reputePullcounter has a reputation beyond reputePullcounter has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,048,394,607.64
Bank: 57,096,339.38
Total Points: 1,105,490,947.02
'Bout time you had a gift. - S a m u r a i 1 of the few unbiased cats on here - mangler If my daddy thinks you're a good poster, then so do I :) - mangler jr Cheers, to postin wit common sense - mangler Calling it as it is - Tom Flores 
stay shittin on em - MANGLER have a blue parallelogram - Jack Napier 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Spacey1991 Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - jazluvr449 AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - mangler Gay and Lesbian Pride - check hook Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Timmy Chans 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tito_bandito View Post
I honestly see these two fighters (Ortiz and Khan) building up to future fights with Timothy Bradley and Devon Alexander which will happen by the end of this year or the beginning of the next. Amir Khan is set to face Casamayor in July before Ramedan takes place, and Team Ortiz is working on setting up a rematch with Maidana in mid to late august. Maidana will have no choice but to face Ortiz again. The reason why I say this is because Bradley is set to fight Abregu in July, Alexander is set to face Koltelnik, and Khan has a fight set up with Casamayor. There will be no excuse for Maidana not to take this fight, because his back injury should be cured by that time as well. I honestly see a conspiracy about this whole thing. Maybe Khan is just doing business and doesn't want to face Maidana to allow Victor Ortiz to have the opportunity to redeem himself? I think GBP has business meetings with both Khan and Ortiz to get both their careers on the go. GBP is going to let Ortiz and Khan divide and conquer 140 and possibly do the same at 147. It's the perfect plot to start milking money out of their cash cows. I can see Ortiz and Khan splitting the belts amongst themselves. At the semi finals of this 140 pound unoficial tournament we will see Khan vs Bradley and Ortiz vs Alexander and winners meet up to unite the belts, but knowing GBP they might have Ortiz and Khan get more resume padding before going on with a PPV in this match up. Your thoughts?

you talking about ortiz? the same ortiz that quit against maidana?

you think that quitter is gonna take over?
Pullcounter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 01:33 PM #3
Golden Boi 360 Golden Boi 360 is offline
Boxing's Biggest Cash Cow
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: United States
Posts: 3,205
Quoted: 569 Post(s)
Rep Power: 13
Golden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,000,291,293.18
Bank: 2,545,973,797,758.20
Total Points: 2,546,974,089,051.38
this one's on me - S H O B O X 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pullcounter View Post

you talking about ortiz? the same ortiz that quit against maidana?

you think that quitter is gonna take over?
you think khan getting knocked the **** out by a bum in going to take over? do you think anyone thought pacquiao was going to be p4p#1 after getting rocked twice?
Golden Boi 360 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 01:33 PM #4
Terrel Terrel is offline
Fire and Blood
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Birmingham, UK
Age: 30
Posts: 6,516
Quoted: 83 Post(s)
Rep Power: 93
Terrel has a reputation beyond reputeTerrel has a reputation beyond reputeTerrel has a reputation beyond reputeTerrel has a reputation beyond reputeTerrel has a reputation beyond reputeTerrel has a reputation beyond reputeTerrel has a reputation beyond reputeTerrel has a reputation beyond reputeTerrel has a reputation beyond reputeTerrel has a reputation beyond reputeTerrel has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 19,980,000,000,009,097,216.00
Bank: 24,379,888,401,204,620.00
Total Points: 20,004,379,888,410,300,416.00
Ice Ice Baby - Agility welcome back! celebration time! - jazluvr A signed copy of Amirs autobiography as a thank you. - dan_cov means alot m8 cheers - the collector Happy holidays bro! - led* 
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year - Freedom. Merry Christmas to you and yours Terrel. I hope 2013 is your best year ever. - deanrw Happy Holidays Terrel - !! AI-Holmes!! Merry Christmas, bro. - BulgariasFinest Merry Christmas - -Kev- 
happy new year terrel - HUGH JASS happy new year bro! - jazluvr Happy new years my friend ! - BulgariasFinest Happy New Year my Targ brother - Miburo nice on bud - HUGH JASS 
weed thread contribution,enjoy the snack! - HUGH JASS To an Awesome Friend - deanrw One of boxingscene's BEST posters! - sweetpea87 welcome back homie!!! - HUGH JASS good to see you back, bro! - jazluvr 
Eating Disorders - Esophageal Cancer - Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease - Irritable Bowel Syndrome - Pulmonary Hypertension - rorymac Eating Disorders - Esophageal Cancer - Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease - Irritable Bowel Syndrome - Pulmonary Hypertension - rorymac Eating Disorders - Esophageal Cancer - Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease - Irritable Bowel Syndrome - Pulmonary Hypertension - rorymac Eating Disorders - Esophageal Cancer - Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease - Irritable Bowel Syndrome - Pulmonary Hypertension - rorymac Eating Disorders - Esophageal Cancer - Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease - Irritable Bowel Syndrome - Pulmonary Hypertension - Shiranui 
Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - jazluvr Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - jazluvr Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - jazluvr Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - jazluvr 
Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - Round 1 AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - Round 1 Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - Jadon Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - jazluvr 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - jose830 Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jose830 Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - jose830 AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - jose830 World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - jose830 
Default

If this tournament actually goes ahead it would liven the light welterweigh division and give the boxing fans what they deserve. Good, high quality fights. I see Khan-Devon in the finals personally with Devon unifying the division.

Ortiz im not too sure about. He looks like that Maidana loss has taken his soul away or something. I cant explain it. A rematch would be good but Khan need to give Maidana his shot. He's the mandatory, simple as.

I can understand what you mean by divide and conquer though, and it does make sense, but, it wont happen in my opinion. Everyone of them needs to get the same ass pay check and thats when **** will be good.

With one asking for more money than the other, it'll never reach the tourney stage.
Terrel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 01:34 PM #5
tito_bandito tito_bandito is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,881
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Rep Power: 11
tito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,000,433,265.47
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 10,000,433,265.47
cheers bro - chiguy91 
Gay and Lesbian Pride - ThePuertoRican 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pullcounter View Post

you talking about ortiz? the same ortiz that quit against maidana?

you think that quitter is gonna take over?
Bradley or Devon couldn't last within those 6 rounds in Ortiz Maidana 1
tito_bandito is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 01:37 PM #6
robboxing robboxing is offline
Contender
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 153
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 7
robboxing is on a distinguished road
Points: 10,295.27
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 10,295.27
Default

Ortiz and Khan are GBP's 2 rising stars. Ortiz is going to fight another washed up name to put on his resume, not Maidana. Maidana beat that ass the entire fight and made Ortiz quit. If Ortiz didn't quit he wouldve been Ko'd.

Is Khan fighting Casamayor? Dangerous opponent, but past his prime. As far as I know, Khan is going to England to have a title defense. It wont be against anyone dangerous.

Neither Khan or Ortiz are ready for Bradley or Alexander.

Zab Judah is going to be on the comeback trail too.

I see the 140 division split in 3 sections. 1. Alexander and Bradley are the kings, pretty untouchable by anyone but each other right now

2. You have guys like Urango, Maidana, Peterson. Big tests for anyone before they fight Alexander or Bradley

3. You have Khan, Ortiz, Judah, Maibuza. Up and coming names that in time will be dangerous for the top 2 tiers.

I don't think both Khan and Ortiz will live up to the hype. If I had to choose one, its Khan but he is going to keep fighting tailor made opponents till Bradley and Alexander lose some steam.
robboxing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 01:37 PM #7
-PANDA- -PANDA- is offline
..Playa by Nature..
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: here and there
Posts: 6,286
Quoted: 11 Post(s)
Rep Power: 28
-PANDA- has a reputation beyond repute-PANDA- has a reputation beyond repute-PANDA- has a reputation beyond repute-PANDA- has a reputation beyond repute-PANDA- has a reputation beyond repute-PANDA- has a reputation beyond repute-PANDA- has a reputation beyond repute-PANDA- has a reputation beyond repute-PANDA- has a reputation beyond repute-PANDA- has a reputation beyond repute-PANDA- has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 2,015,502,813,185.47
Bank: 961,286,866,290,956.38
Total Points: 963,302,369,104,141.88
a panda always wins - Tha_Greatest SuperPANDA is a playa fa sho!!!!!!! - Chief2ndzOnly! i enjoy ur posts - led have a beer on me - led Pacquiao vs Marquez IV! - Check_hooks 
thanks for the green brother - jas 
World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - Fire and Fear World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - Fire and Fear World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - Fire and Fear World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - Fire and Fear Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - jas 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pullcounter View Post

you talking about ortiz? the same ortiz that quit against maidana?

you think that quitter is gonna take over?
panda thinks this is plausible too

people be dissin ortiz just because he quit yet before that fight most people on this board were on his bandwagon

hes not shot, he drew a crowd of 10,000 people against an unknown maidana and made it an exciting fight so this kid has drawing power he just needs to rematch maidana or fight one or two other top 10 opponents to dust himself off and pick up where he left off
-PANDA- is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 01:38 PM #8
tito_bandito tito_bandito is offline
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,881
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Rep Power: 11
tito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond reputetito_bandito has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,000,433,265.47
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 10,000,433,265.47
cheers bro - chiguy91 
Gay and Lesbian Pride - ThePuertoRican 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terrel View Post
If this tournament actually goes ahead it would liven the light welterweigh division and give the boxing fans what they deserve. Good, high quality fights. I see Khan-Devon in the finals personally with Devon unifying the division.

Ortiz im not too sure about. He looks like that Maidana loss has taken his soul away or something. I cant explain it. A rematch would be good but Khan need to give Maidana his shot. He's the mandatory, simple as.

I can understand what you mean by divide and conquer though, and it does make sense, but, it wont happen in my opinion. Everyone of them needs to get the same ass pay check and thats when **** will be good.

With one asking for more money than the other, it'll never reach the tourney stage.
what i mean by divide amd conquer is that bot khan and ortiz will go seperate ways to unite the belts...but Khan isnt fighting in the fall amd maidana has a back injury so ortiz is the only open guy
tito_bandito is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 01:38 PM #9
Golden Boi 360 Golden Boi 360 is offline
Boxing's Biggest Cash Cow
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: United States
Posts: 3,205
Quoted: 569 Post(s)
Rep Power: 13
Golden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond reputeGolden Boi 360 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,000,291,293.18
Bank: 2,545,973,797,758.20
Total Points: 2,546,974,089,051.38
this one's on me - S H O B O X 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by robboxing View Post
Ortiz and Khan are GBP's 2 rising stars. Ortiz is going to fight another washed up name to put on his resume, not Maidana. Maidana beat that ass the entire fight and made Ortiz quit. If Ortiz didn't quit he wouldve been Ko'd.

Is Khan fighting Casamayor? Dangerous opponent, but past his prime. As far as I know, Khan is going to England to have a title defense. It wont be against anyone dangerous.

Neither Khan or Ortiz are ready for Bradley or Alexander.

Zab Judah is going to be on the comeback trail too.

I see the 140 division split in 3 sections. 1. Alexander and Bradley are the kings, pretty untouchable by anyone but each other right now

2. You have guys like Urango, Maidana, Peterson. Big tests for anyone before they fight Alexander or Bradley

3. You have Khan, Ortiz, Judah, Maibuza. Up and coming names that in time will be dangerous for the top 2 tiers.

I don't think both Khan and Ortiz will live up to the hype. If I had to choose one, its Khan but he is going to keep fighting tailor made opponents till Bradley and Alexander lose some steam.
You obviously haven't seen the fight.
Golden Boi 360 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 01:42 PM #10
robboxing robboxing is offline
Contender
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 153
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 7
robboxing is on a distinguished road
Points: 10,295.27
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 10,295.27
Default

They won't divide and conquer the division. Ortiz doesn't impress me. Khan will be a threat. What I think you mean is that GBP wont put them against each other.

Obviously. You don't take 2 of your own prospects and let them fight. You completely backtrack ones career. It might be the right fight in the future (which it wont because Ortiz wont make it as far as Khan) but you never match 2 sheltered fighters like that while you can still make moneyoff them.
robboxing is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share This With Friends

Tags
conquer:, divide, gbp's, gonna, khan, master, ortiz, plan...

User Tag List

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

 

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:22 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.