Three over-used comments about Ricky Hatton that get on my nerves...

... don't get me wrong, I don't even like the little pasty fella that much, so hit me with as much "UK bias" as you want, it ain't the case. The one thing I will say about Ricky that is impressive is his stamina... that guy can go full on, three minutes of each round, 12 rounds, no problems. But his ****ing style doesn't personally thrill me that much.

Anyway, the points:


1. "Manchester". Always say it like it's a dirty word, then whinge about the ref. Like Las Vegas is the height of fair sportsmanship and judging? Dave "Slim" Parris has been criticised for being a man who's referred Hatton before. (On three occasions out of 39 contests - though correct me if I'm wrong, BoxRec doesn't list the ref for Ricky's first ten or twelve bouts) So should Jan Bergman have said that he lost to Kostya because they were reffed by Billy Males and he'd done two prior Zoo bouts? Hatton fought dirty, but so did Zoo, and if the ref was biased he wouldn't have told them both off, and he would have been taking points for Zoo's low blows. Zoo held, Hatton held, Zoo hit low several times, Hatton lost his cool and gave him one almight whack in the bollocks... get over it.

2. "Mayweather is the man at 140." No, he isn't. Would we even be arguing this point if Ricky wasn't from the UK? Ricky beat the man at the top, and man who hadn't lost his belts in the ring. It's no good saying that Mayweather is the man because he has the latent potential to be. I've never heard this argument before in my life... so when James Toney took the third most-regarded heavyweight belt off arguably the fourth most-regarded heavy was he "the man" in the division because he could potentially beat Vitali, Byrd and Brewster? You gotta do it to be it - what's so difficult about that to understand?

3. "Mayweather will pick Hatton apart, his defence is this, his attack is that..." I'm not saying Hatton will or won't beat Floyd (I'd like to see it) but judging from the posts 90% of the people who discuss Hatton's boxing style have only seen him in ONE fight. I wouldn't even profess to say how Mayweather would go about fighting Hatton, and I've seen a handful of his. You can't say you know a boxer inside out after seeing just one bout against a particular opponent. Get tapes, read up on it, get your facts straight before proferring an opinion that's based on nothing more than reading his boxing CV and seeing him blacken Kostya's goolies.


Okay... rant over.

[scap]

... don't get me wrong, I don't even like the little pasty fella that much, so hit me with as much "UK bias" as you want, it ain't the case. The one thing I will say about Ricky that is impressive is his stamina... that guy can go full on, three minutes of each round, 12 rounds, no problems. But his ****ing style doesn't personally thrill me that much.

Anyway, the points:


1. "Manchester". Always say it like it's a dirty word, then whinge about the ref. Like Las Vegas is the height of fair sportsmanship and judging? Dave "Slim" Parris has been criticised for being a man who's referred Hatton before. (On three occasions out of 39 contests - though correct me if I'm wrong, BoxRec doesn't list the ref for Ricky's first ten or twelve bouts) So should Jan Bergman have said that he lost to Kostya because they were reffed by Billy Males and he'd done two prior Zoo bouts? Hatton fought dirty, but so did Zoo, and if the ref was biased he wouldn't have told them both off, and he would have been taking points for Zoo's low blows. Zoo held, Hatton held, Zoo hit low several times, Hatton lost his cool and gave him one almight whack in the bollocks... get over it.

2. "Mayweather is the man at 140." No, he isn't. Would we even be arguing this point if Ricky wasn't from the UK? Ricky beat the man at the top, and man who hadn't lost his belts in the ring. It's no good saying that Mayweather is the man because he has the latent potential to be. I've never heard this argument before in my life... so when James Toney took the third most-regarded heavyweight belt off arguably the fourth most-regarded heavy was he "the man" in the division because he could potentially beat Vitali, Byrd and Brewster? You gotta do it to be it - what's so difficult about that to understand?

3. "Mayweather will pick Hatton apart, his defence is this, his attack is that..." I'm not saying Hatton will or won't beat Floyd (I'd like to see it) but judging from the posts 90% of the people who discuss Hatton's boxing style have only seen him in ONE fight. I wouldn't even profess to say how Mayweather would go about fighting Hatton, and I've seen a handful of his. You can't say you know a boxer inside out after seeing just one bout against a particular opponent. Get tapes, read up on it, get your facts straight before proferring an opinion that's based on nothing more than reading his boxing CV and seeing him blacken Kostya's goolies.


Okay... rant over.

Are you trying to make yourself look ******?

I dont really disagree with anything you said about Hatton, I think his style might be the only 1 at 140 that has any shot at upsetting Floyd...agreed again about Hatton being the man to beat not Floyd, and I also agree that Mabnchester is not a dirty word, if I was Ricky Floyd is the one guy I dont travel to the US to fight.

Now here is where you are a complete moron and I mean that in a very nice way...you moron.

Junior Witter #2 p4p, jesus ****ing christ. I like Wittier and the style resurection that he has gone thru since being humiliated by Zab Judah but he has beaten Lovemore Ndou and you have him at #2...you have zero credibility when you post something like this.

Secondly I love Joe Calzaghe but I would have a tough time putting him where you have him...in order to be in that top 10 p4p you need something called a RESUME. Now Joe's resume is not as bad as many like to try and point out but it is not a resume that gets him in the top 10 p4p...wake up Anorak-being a loyal fan of your boys is great but when you are a blatant homer it just makes you look like a ******.

I am only looking out for you because I care, remember think befroe you do something like putting Witter in the top 5...this must be changed, hell maybe it was a typo....Anorak stop being a ****** your brain can't be this ****ed up.

[El Jesus]

Most people who have seen Hatton on this site have seen him since his showtime debut, but people judge him on his most career defining fight, get used to it.

Are you trying to make yourself look ******?

I dont really disagree with anything you said about Hatton, I think his style might be the only 1 at 140 that has any shot at upsetting Floyd...agreed again about Hatton being the man to beat not Floyd, and I also agree that Mabnchester is not a dirty word, if I was Ricky Floyd is the one guy I dont travel to the US to fight.

Now here is where you are a complete moron and I mean that in a very nice way...you moron.

Junior Witter #2 p4p, jesus ****ing christ. I like Wittier and the style resurection that he has gone thru since being humiliated by Zab Judah but he has beaten Lovemore Ndou and you have him at #2...you have zero credibility when you post something like this.

Secondly I love Joe Calzaghe but I would have a tough time putting him where you have him...in order to be in that top 10 p4p you need something called a RESUME. Now Joe's resume is not as bad as many like to try and point out but it is not a resume that gets him in the top 10 p4p...wake up Anorak-being a loyal fan of your boys is great but when you are a blatant homer it just makes you look like a ******.

I am only looking out for you because I care, remember think befroe you do something like putting Witter in the top 5...this must be changed, hell maybe it was a typo....Anorak stop being a ****** your brain can't be this ****ed up.

Scap, that was a funny put down, I liked that one! In fact, I'm gonna do the rare thing of giving someone good karma for calling me a ******. It don't mean you'll all get it for the same, but Scap said it with a bit of panache.

The top ten p4p is just my sig, incidentally, it wasn't part of the post. "Homers" though? I only had two Brits in there and Calzaghe's a Taff.

But this is my own personal opinion, I'm not saying that The Ring should take my lead or anything. Witter's been avoided for years, certainly in the UK, and he was only learning (hadn't been past eight rounds) when he fought Judah at just a few weeks' notice. I can forgive him one off night cos I've seen him about a dozen times and he's got world class talent that's perpetually underexposed. Maybe he'll get the chance to show what he's got? And if he stepped up for a Judah rematch? Sure I'd bet on him.

Calzaghe? Hell, people big up Bernard "My favourite song is "Runaway" by Del Shannon" Slopkins's defences, but Calzaghe's had 16 defences of his belt. Okay, they've been defences against a pile of crap mainly, but so are Hopkins's.

The rest of my list? They're Yankee Doodle Dandies.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Spot on Anorak... ... Once again... Karma for you!..

Most people who have seen Hatton on this site have seen him since his showtime debut, but people judge him on his most career defining fight, get used to it.

No, I won't "get used to it". I come on to this site expecting informed debate, not hypotheses snatched out of the air... and I doubt from the way most speak that it's "most people" who have seen a wide range of Hatton's fights.

The rest of my list? They're Yankee Doodle Dandies.

Actually there's Mexicans, Ukranians... but you get my point.

[El Jesus]

No, I won't "get used to it". I come on to this site expecting informed debate, not hypotheses snatched out of the air... and I doubt from the way most speak that it's "most people" who have seen a wide range of Hatton's fights.

You shouldnt be going anywhere on the internet and expect to be anything more than shocked, awed, apalled and ****ing dumbfounded.

If you havent noticed, most ****ing forums have very few respected peers. I speak that way about Hatton ive been looking at him since the time i stated before, he comes foward, thats how he fights, he doesnt have the best ****in defense neither. He can box, but he can brawl as well.

Dont come here thinking everyone is this well informed ****ing sherlock holmes harvard graduate, people feel the way they feel and if you come here expecting to be socially and intellectually enlightened you need to stay off of forums period.

[Moon]

3. "Mayweather will pick Hatton apart, his defence is this, his attack is that..." I'm not saying Hatton will or won't beat Floyd (I'd like to see it) but judging from the posts 90% of the people who discuss Hatton's boxing style have only seen him in ONE fight. I wouldn't even profess to say how Mayweather would go about fighting Hatton, and I've seen a handful of his. You can't say you know a boxer inside out after seeing just one bout against a particular opponent. Get tapes, read up on it, get your facts straight before proferring an opinion that's based on nothing more than reading his boxing CV and seeing him blacken Kostya's goolies.

I agree with the first sentence (the quote I mean) and then it all falls apart.

Ricky Hatton is universally known as a guy who comes forward all night long in an effort to establish the inside fight. Once he starts the inside work, he slows a guy down and then the inside fighting gets firmly established.

I've seen the Zoo fight, Stewart fight and that tall Canadian guy. It was the same Ricky Hatton in each fight, moving forward and throwing a hell of a lot. Some adjustments, but really just Ricky being entirely dependent on getting that inside game established. Then it's Ricky fight.

I think that Zoo and Mayweather are vastly different fighters, so your right it's not sensible to compare Hatton-Mayweather based on that perofrmance, solely. But, I don't see Hatton having success charging/marching/lunging into Mayweather like he must, in order to tire-out May and then get May to stand still and fight inside. Instead, I see May giving Hatton much too much movement, while also stacking up the points. Sure Ricky might get a round or two, but if he can't hit a guy alot, than he's not gonna' tire the guy and set up the inside game.

You shouldnt be going anywhere on the internet and expect to be anything more than shocked, awed, apalled and ****ing dumbfounded.

That was funny as well... getting some good replies here tonight.