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Old 05-21-2010, 03:06 AM
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bump for what?

there was nothing on the cutoff dates whether or not there was & when was latest time the testing happened before the fight.
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Old 05-21-2010, 03:07 AM
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Because the testing was porous during that time. Now, after many advancements, it's the world standard.
the world standard that marion jones & tim montgomery beat?
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Old 05-21-2010, 03:14 AM
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Because the testing was porous during that time. Now, after many advancements, it's the world standard.
Just had to step in and say that the world standard still sucks.....Landis (Tour De World Cycler), Marion Jones (Olympic Track), Shane Mosley, 1/2 of MLB, countless boxers, countless other Olympians being stripped or DQ due to positive tests after the fact.....in both Olympics and Professional Sports.

The WORLD STANDARD is very weak then if you ask me.....
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Old 05-21-2010, 03:14 AM
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the world standard that marion jones & tim montgomery beat?
Yes, people still beat the system, but it's a world-wide initiative that improves yearly. Is there any other program that is even comparable?

I'm not really sure what the point of all this talk is. If you're saying USADA isn't good enough, then what does that say about NSAC and Pac's demands, which are far worse? Are you saying it doesn't work, so they shouldn't test at all? Or are you saying it doesn't work, so they should make a test that's even more demanding than what the USADA does?
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Old 05-21-2010, 03:14 AM
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bump for what?

there was nothing on the cutoff dates whether or not there was & when was latest time the testing happened before the fight.
Exactly.
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Old 05-21-2010, 03:16 AM
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the world standard that marion jones & tim montgomery beat?
Hard for them to beat a system that didn't exist when they competed.

Also, Tim Montgomery tested dirty through the previous testing system.
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Old 05-21-2010, 03:17 AM
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Just had to step in and say that the world standard still sucks.....Landis (Tour De World Cycler), Marion Jones (Olympic Track), Shane Mosley, 1/2 of MLB, countless boxers, countless other Olympians being stripped or DQ due to positive tests after the fact.....in both Olympics and Professional Sports.

The WORLD STANDARD is very weak then if you ask me.....
Well, I think amateur boxing follows the standard, at least for international events, but pro doesn't obviously. MLB has their own program, which is not the same.

They do catch people out of competition and during training for international events. They do catch people after the fact and give the awards to clean participants. Sure, it's not perfect, but show me the alternative that is better? There is none. This is the best program in the world, and why shouldn't they use it? Do you think things wouldn't be worse if they didn't test at all, or went with an inferior program?
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Old 05-21-2010, 03:21 AM
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Just had to step in and say that the world standard still sucks.....Landis (Tour De World Cycler), Marion Jones (Olympic Track), Shane Mosley, 1/2 of MLB, countless boxers, countless other Olympians being stripped or DQ due to positive tests after the fact.....in both Olympics and Professional Sports.

The WORLD STANDARD is very weak then if you ask me.....
Landis tested dirty two years ago.

Marion Jones was never subjected to current WADA protocols.

Shane Mosely, beat NSAC policies, not WADA's.

The MLB has never employed random blood test, but wish to do so starting this season with their minor league system.

Boxers are subject to whichever commission rules their fight is located at. Not WADA policies.

Only 6 of 3,667 athletes tested positive for PED's during the Beijing Olympics.
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Old 05-21-2010, 03:22 AM
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Why werent you boxing fans all PRO Olympic Style Testing back when fighters like Toney, Vargas, and Shane were cheating..

Funny how you all jump on Floyds wagon. Floyd says he's trying to clean up the sport and his disciples follow...
So that makes cleaning up the sport wrong does it ,,, why must you be such an imbecile , this is great for boxing , probably the best thing to have ever happened for the good of boxing and your bagging Mayweather , WTF .
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Old 05-21-2010, 03:25 AM
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So that makes cleaning up the sport wrong does it ,,, why must you be such an imbecile , this is great for boxing , probably the best thing to have ever happened for the good of boxing and your bagging Mayweather , WTF .
Yeah definitely it is great for the sport.. Make it happen cause I doubt it will even be this much of a big deal once Floyd and Pac are out of the sport... Then will just go back to the same testing procedures...

TESTING EVERY FIGHTER 8x before their fights.. Like really, who is Floyd trying to fool..
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