Bob Arum: "Ali was more selfish, Manny is about helping the people"

[edgarg]

Originally Posted by Calilloyd

Yeah Tunney and Wlad owns are some real winners. Whatever makes you happy, Dude

I presume that you are one of the 5 persons in the picture you use. I see Sammy Davis Junior's brother in the bottom row.....who are the others.....which is you??

[carlos slim]

being selfish is not a bad thing...manny gives all his money away to the unemployed like an idiot, i heard ali did that too....ali is the reason bob arum got into boxing....arum was a tax lawyer called in to work one of alis fights......he wasnt even a fan of boxing before he started promoting it...

more importantly when did bob arum become an expert on morals?

[Calilloyd]

Originally Posted by edgarg

I presume that you are one of the 5 persons in the picture you use. I see Sammy Davis Junior's brother in the bottom row.....who are the others.....which is you??

Considering your lack of boxing knowledge and passion for white fighters I wouldn't expect you to recognize the boxers in my avatar. I'm also not surprised that you see a resemblance between Sammy Davis Jr and Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes and Norton . Are you Elie Seckbach's father?

[edgarg]

Originally Posted by Calilloyd

Oh, I can put up many more examples. But I'm not going to do your homework for you. Besides, you claimed 100 percent of Ali's "contemporaries" had a negative opinion or didn't think he was the greatest. My ONE example proves that you lied and don't know what you're talking about. That's all I needed. Try again,Tunney Light. Nat Fleischer said a lot of silly things. Such as "Frazier is not a hard puncher" among other things lol. More important, how many times did Fleischer step in the ring with Ali, Foreman, or Holmes? Or any professional fighter?I'll take Ken Norton's word over a man that's been dead for how long now?

I'm interested in all the "silly things" that Nat Fleischer said (according to you). Do you recall any of them. I could find them myself of course, by just looking through the many years of Ring Magazines that I have, but I know you like to show us all how smart you are.

Never mind what others say about you, I think you`re sentient.

[edgarg]

Originally Posted by Calilloyd

Considering your lack of boxing knowledge and passion for white fighters I wouldn't expect you to recognize the boxers in my avatar. I'm also not surprised that you see a resemblance between Sammy Davis Jr and Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes and Norton . Are you Elie Seckbach's father?

Say....... you ARE pretty smart, aren`t you. You know who I like and what I`m thinking.

Perhaps you hear things unspoken..... I once knew a fellow who had such big ears that he could hear things before they were said........something like you.

Well, it`s time for me to some something productive, and I must stop this pleasant way of passing the time. I really wish you were a bit smarter and I really don`t like being able to dig away at you, without any meaningful response.

And if you could cultivate a small sense of humour, it might be nice.

[edgarg]

Originally Posted by Calilloyd

Oh, I can put up many more examples. But I'm not going to do your homework for you. Besides, you claimed 100 percent of Ali's "contemporaries" had a negative opinion or didn't think he was the greatest. My ONE example proves that you lied and don't know what you're talking about. That's all I needed. Try again,Tunney Light. Nat Fleischer said a lot of silly things. Such as "Frazier is not a hard puncher" among other things lol. More important, how many times did Fleischer step in the ring with Ali, Foreman, or Holmes? Or any professional fighter?I'll take Ken Norton's word over a man that's been dead for how long now?

By the way one last little thing. I`m fairly sure that Nat Fleischer ``stepped into the ring``with nearly every one of the fighters you mention, although perhaps not Holmes. He said that he`d been at ringside for every top fighter beginning with Jeffries in 1903, and ending in 1972 when he unfortunately died. So it`s not a stretch to assume that he also went into the ring at the end of each fight, to get a quote.

Whadda ya tink...