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Old 05-08-2010, 06:43 PM
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Default Ricardo Mayorga or Juan Roldan who was greater?

Who was greater?
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Old 05-08-2010, 11:17 PM
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Mayorga accomplished more as he won 3 titles in two divisions. In addition, he would have unified the WW title against Spinks if it wasen't for Tony Orlando's bad officiating. He had two KD's that were not scored by Orlando and he also was deducted two points by the Ref. Mayorga said some nasty things prior to the fight about killing Cory Spinks in order for him to be reunited with his deceased mom in heaven. I have no doubt Orlando the ref took that in consideration in the fight. I think Spinks died of cancer and was not taken well by people.

Mayorga technically was flawed with horrible defense but his unorthodox style did give him wins against guys like Andrew 6 head lewis, Vernon Forrest(twice), Picchilo(sp?), Vargas etc.

I am a fan of Roldan like SOnnybox here, but the fact is he had three cracks at the MW title and failed each occassion. He had great power and also was unorthodox like Mayorga, but he was more a Swarmer opposed to Mayorga who was a brawler. Roldan was winning against Hagler until he either got thumbed or got hit in the bridge of the eye. He had Hearns on queer street but didnt finish him and than got KO'd. I think he also fell short against Nigel Benn or Julian jackson for a MW title, don't recall and i am not going to check boxrec on it.

Mayorga also gave game fights against Trinidad and gave trouble to Mosley for a few rds. BTw, he was not Kod by Mosley, Mosley did not stay in the netural corner and knocked him out with one second left, if he had stayed in the neutral corner-mayorga survives as the bell rings.

Once again, i am writing fast with no boxrec or wiki references my sincere apologies if i missed some info.
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Old 05-08-2010, 11:17 PM
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Neither of them were great tbh..
Who was better, would have been more appropriate and i'd say Mayorga just edges it for the double upset over Forrest. If Forrest had won the return, i'd have picked Roldan..
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Old 05-08-2010, 11:32 PM
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Mayorga accomplished more as he won 3 titles in two divisions. In addition, he would have unified the WW title against Spinks if it wasen't for Tony Orlando's bad officiating. He had two KD's that were not scored by Orlando and he also was deducted two points by the Ref. Mayorga said some nasty things prior to the fight about killing Cory Spinks in order for him to be reunited with his deceased mom in heaven. I have no doubt Orlando the ref took that in consideration in the fight. I think Spinks died of cancer and was not taken well by people.

Mayorga technically was flawed with horrible defense but his unorthodox style did give him wins against guys like Andrew 6 head lewis, Vernon Forrest(twice), Picchilo(sp?), Vargas etc.

I am a fan of Roldan like SOnnybox here, but the fact is he had three cracks at the MW title and failed each occassion. He had great power and also was unorthodox like Mayorga, but he was more a Swarmer opposed to Mayorga who was a brawler. Roldan was winning against Hagler until he either got thumbed or got hit in the bridge of the eye. He had Hearns on queer street but didnt finish him and than got KO'd. I think he also fell short against Nigel Benn or Julian jackson for a MW title, don't recall and i am not going to check boxrec on it.

Mayorga also gave game fights against Trinidad and gave trouble to Mosley for a few rds. BTw, he was not Kod by Mosley, Mosley did not stay in the netural corner and knocked him out with one second left, if he had stayed in the neutral corner-mayorga survives as the bell rings.

Once again, i am writing fast with no boxrec or wiki references my sincere apologies if i missed some info.
I wish!... They're the type of high risk fights that are too good to be made..
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Old 05-09-2010, 12:02 AM
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I wish!... They're the type of high risk fights that are too good to be made..
It was Michael Nunn for a IBF title, i knew he had a 3rd crack at a MW title.
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Old 05-10-2010, 02:02 AM
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Roldan was the greater fighter by a country mile, Roldan was one of the strongest 160lb fighters of all times Thomas Hearns said Roldan was the toughest fight of his career, Marvin Hagler had real trouble with Roldans style and other than a deliberate thumb in Roldans eye Hagler may well have suffered a defeat..Juan"The Hammer"Roldan beat world ranked contenders Frank Fletcher & James Kinchen as well as knocking out former undisputed middleweight champion Hugo Corro in the opening round also beating JB Williamson, Roldan once fought a 500lb grizzly bear for $10 in Argentina the bear was muzzled and gloved... a fight between Mayorga vs Roldan would not last too long Roldan would have butchered him
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Old 05-10-2010, 02:09 AM
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I wish!... They're the type of high risk fights that are too good to be made..
very true micky, could you imagine Benn vs Roldan or Jackson vs Roldan - they would have been like "Gunfight at the OK corral"
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Old 05-10-2010, 02:46 AM
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I think Rodan was greater even thought Mayorga got "titles". Everybody gets titles now.
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Old 05-10-2010, 05:37 AM
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very true micky, could you imagine Benn vs Roldan or Jackson vs Roldan - they would have been like "Gunfight at the OK corral"
You'd need a few more... Throw in QuincyTaylor, Julian Letterlough, Antwun Echolls, John Mugabe and Fuly Oblajimas.. Would have made for a cracking tournament.. I wonder what sort of odds you would have got for every fight ending inside the limit?
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Old 05-10-2010, 03:31 PM
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Just thinking of Roldan vs Benn, scares me.
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