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View Poll Results: Who ranks higher?
Roy Jones Jr 29 85.29%
James Toney 5 14.71%
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Old 05-07-2010, 05:20 PM
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Toney is better than all thoose guys (except Holyfield) and Jones outclassed Toney. Toney dosen't have any win on his resume that is better than himself.
Mike Mccallum is as good as Toney
3 Divison champion
Best wins:
Julian Jackson
Kalumbay
Curry

Past Prime Holyfield
2 Division champion
Tyson I
Tyson II
Moorer

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Old 05-08-2010, 06:42 AM
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Mike Mccallum is a good as Toney
3 Divison champion
Best wins:
Julian Jackson
Kalumbay
Curry

Past Prime Holyfield
2 Division champion
Tyson I
Tyson II
Moorer
Roy beat mccallum too.
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Old 05-08-2010, 07:52 AM
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Roy beat mccallum too.
Toney beat a good version, Jones beat a shot version. Big difference in the versions they fought.

I'll go with Jones, but I think Toney has the bigger single wins, but overall Jones' accomplishments and consistency win the day for him along with the actual win over Toney when they both met in their primes.

I prefer Toney to Jones, and his wins are, all up, greater than Jones' but Jones will still be ranked higher and rightfully so.
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Old 05-08-2010, 08:21 AM
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What would you say Jones' best wins were? To compare.
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Old 05-08-2010, 10:28 AM
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What would you say Jones' best wins were? To compare.
Best wins:
Hopkins
Toney
Ruiz
Tarver
R.Johnson
4 division champion

Scoring criteria:
Consistency:Jones
Best wins:Toney
Accomplishments:Jones
Reaction to adversity:Toney

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98% of those guys are under 30 and are most familiar with their most recent performances.

Which is not to say that guys under 30 can't do their homework and catch up on his legacy.
Most of them couldn't be arsed though

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Old 05-08-2010, 11:08 AM
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Roy beat mccallum too.
That was a very past prime version of McCallum, who was fighting 3 weight classes above his prime weight class, he was 40 years old and would lose to Toney in his next fight at cw
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Old 05-08-2010, 11:15 AM
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Jones had a lot of greats wins too of course. It goes without saying that they were nearly as good as Toney's, but I think Jones' best wins were just short of Toney's.

An obvious one being McCallum. Although they both beat him, Toney beat a great version of McCallum who was still very close to his prime. Jones didn't even get a solid version of McCallum.

If we go through each division: Middleweight Toney had Nunn and McCallum and Jones had Hopkins and Castro. Both good, but Nunn/McCallum was better than Hopkins at that time. SMW: Past it Barkley for Toney and Toney for Jones. Jones wins that one. LHW: Jones wins this one on sheer volume and title accomplishment as Toney didn't really do much at LHW at all.

I guess Jones' best win would be Tarver at LHW. JOnes didn't do CW whereas Toney had a great win over the main guy at CW in the undefeated champion Jirov.

Jones goes to HW and beats Ruiz which is fine. Toney did the same even easier probably, but it was called a NC from steroids (not that it would have made any difference but it was still ****ed from Toney the idiot). But, Toney also beat Holyfield, Peter (even though it was given to Peter it was a ridiculous decision which in no way Peter won so I'm going to include it just because it should be a win) plus a series of other very good wins like Guinn, Booker, Rahman (again a BS decision rematch) etc, whereas Jones' career was up by then.

You know they are both good and bad and have their great points and their ****e points.
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Old 05-08-2010, 11:17 AM
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Best wins:
Hopkins
Toney
Ruiz
Tarver
R.Johnson
4 division champion

Scoring criteria:
Consistency:Jones
Best wins:Toney
Accomplishments:Jones
Reaction to adversity:Toney
This is about what it comes down to. It's close but overall Jones has it simply because of Toney's laziness really.
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Old 05-08-2010, 11:23 AM
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Jones had a lot of greats wins too of course. It goes without saying that they were nearly as good as Toney's, but I think Jones' best wins were just short of Toney's.

An obvious one being McCallum. Although they both beat him, Toney beat a great version of McCallum who was still very close to his prime. Jones didn't even get a solid version of McCallum.
I think that Toney won McCallum I and III, but lost II
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If we go through each division: Middleweight Toney had Nunn and McCallum and Jones had Hopkins and Castro. Both good, but Nunn/McCallum was better than Hopkins at that time. SMW: Past it Barkley for Toney and Toney for Jones. Jones wins that one.
He also beat Littles and Williams, so I'm going with Toney at SMW
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LHW: Jones wins this one on sheer volume and title accomplishment as Toney didn't really do much at LHW at all.
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I guess Jones' best win would be Tarver at LHW. JOnes didn't do CW whereas Toney had a great win over the main guy at CW in the undefeated champion Jirov.
I think his best win is Toney
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Jones goes to HW and beats Ruiz which is fine. Toney did the same even easier probably, but it was called a NC from steroids (not that it would have made any difference but it was still ****ed from Toney the idiot). But, Toney also beat Holyfield, Peter (even though it was given to Peter it was a ridiculous decision which in no way Peter won so I'm going to include it just because it should be a win) plus a series of other very good wins like Guinn, Booker, Rahman (again a BS decision rematch) etc, whereas Jones' career was up by then.
Toney done some real dumb things thats for sure
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You know they are both good and bad and have their great points and their ****e points.
I agree

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