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#21
Old 05-04-2010, 05:54 AM
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its ok TS this will be a good challenge for pAC this will be a motivator for him to fight floyd and claim his throne..
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Old 05-04-2010, 05:55 AM
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Because Floyd was P4P #1, retired, came back and beat the #2 and #3 P4P fighters. In addition, he beat two of fighters, albeit better versions, that Manny has fought during his "streak".

Cotto and Clottey don't put Manny above Floyd. Period.
Cotto and Clottey would likely have beaten JMM and Mosely at WW. They are far younger and near the prime of their careers. Mosely and JMM have a combined age of nearly 80 and have a ridiculous amount of wear on them. Mosely is shot and JMM is getting there.
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Old 05-04-2010, 05:58 AM
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Because Floyd was P4P #1, retired, came back and beat the #2 and #3 P4P fighters. In addition, he beat two of fighters, albeit better versions, that Manny has fought during his "streak".

Cotto and Clottey don't put Manny above Floyd. Period.
i think you forgot mosley's defeat from cotto or ur just a delusional *****?
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:00 AM
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i think you forgot mosley's defeat from cotto or ur just a delusional *****?
He also Forget Mosely had Floyd badly hurt and won two rounds off him... more than Pac has lost in his past 5 fights.
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:00 AM
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It's funny that some people say Floyd cherry picked the likes of Baldomir, Hatton, Marquez and Mosley yet praise Pacquiao for beating the likes of Morales, De La Hoya, Hatton and Cotto. When Floyd fought these fighters they were ontop of their game, when Pacquiao fought them they were either shot or weight drained. It's not excuses it's just fact
baldomir- sucks

hatton- out of weight

marquez- fat

mosley- old.
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:01 AM
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It's all bs anyway. Ring had to make concessions to Manny's fanbase so they kept him p4p. And the same for Floyd, so they give him #1 welter. bscene, maybe it's to calm down all the crying about ronnie nathanielz lately
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:02 AM
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Because Floyd was P4P #1, retired, came back and beat the #2 and #3 P4P fighters. In addition, he beat two of fighters, albeit better versions, that Manny has fought during his "streak".

Cotto and Clottey don't put Manny above Floyd. Period.
the number 2 p4p had to climb up two weight classes, how come people keep ignoring this?

and mosley was a great win but not enough to overtake pac..

still no explanation how floyd can be considered number 2 by beating marquez, (whom manny already beat) then number 1 by beating mosley (who already got beat by cotto)
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:03 AM
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i think you forgot mosley's defeat from cotto or ur just a delusional *****?
Why does everything have to be about *****'s and *******s with you people? Mature and rational discussions are impossible on these boards, and it's pathetic. If you wish to discuss the topic, do so. If not? Shut the hell up.

Cotto defeated Mosely before being brutalized by Margarito, and before being the damaged goods he now is. Even if that weren't the case, that fight was close and could have gone either way.
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:04 AM
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i think you forgot mosley's defeat from cotto or ur just a delusional *****?
i don't have a problem people rating floyd over pac if they have a valid argument for it.

problem is, they haven't presented a single argument for it without downplaying manny pac's wins and overrating floyds...

everyone is entitled to his own opinion. but people are also entitled to question it.
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:07 AM
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Cotto and Clottey would likely have beaten JMM and Mosely at WW. They are far younger and near the prime of their careers. Mosely and JMM have a combined age of nearly 80 and have a ridiculous amount of wear on them. Mosely is shot and JMM is getting there.
Cotto's damaged goods, and Clottey's never won a big fight. Ever.

Mosely was coming off the biggest win in his career, and was the undisputed WW champ. Before the scheduled Mayweather fight, everyone was predicting that he'd knock Andre Berto out, a youthful, talented, prime, fighter.

JMM, according to the majority of experts, historians, and analyst, had beaten Pac the year prior. In both Pacquiao bouts, JMM landed more punches and won more rounds. He staggered and bloodied Pac in their second fight.
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