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Old 04-27-2010, 04:17 PM #11
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You do realize Morales was coming of a loss ALL THREE TIMES Pac fought him?

You do realize MAB was coming of a loss the THE SECOND TIME Pac fought him?

Those are the men Pac built his legacy off of. I guess that legacy is in shambles.
I think Morales had secured himself as one of the best fighters in the game despite losses. That loss to Barrera was in an extremely competitive fight.

And MAB sure has hell didnt lose before the FIRST Pacquiao fight, which u failed to mention.

I mean if we are debating resumes here its an absolute joke. Pacquiaos is SOOOO much better its no comparison. He has at LEAST 3 all time greats on his resume, including MAB, Morales, and Marquez, and at least 5 future hall of famers.

Mayweather has a whopping 0 all time greats and MAYBE 2 or 3 hall of famers
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:19 PM #12
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what's your definition of 'elite'
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:20 PM #13
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Is that the standard for being a elite fighter or Welterweight?
and if you are coming off a loss you can not be elite?

please do not duck this question...
absolutely not, u can still be elite.

But when you've only got one good win at the weight, and u lose to a guy like Baldomir, how can u possibly be considered elite?

I dont blame Floyd for fighting Judah tho, cause the division was a barren wasteland. But that doesnt mean he beat an elite welterweight
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I think Morales had secured himself as one of the best fighters in the game despite losses. That loss to Barrera was in an extremely competitive fight.

And MAB sure has hell didnt lose before the FIRST Pacquiao fight, which u failed to mention.

I mean if we are debating resumes here its an absolute joke. Pacquiaos is SOOOO much better its no comparison. He has at LEAST 3 all time greats on his resume, including MAB, Morales, and Marquez, and at least 5 future hall of famers.

Mayweather has a whopping 0 all time greats and MAYBE 2 or 3 hall of famers
Mayweather didn't fight Marquez too?
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I think Morales had secured himself as one of the best fighters in the game despite losses. That loss to Barrera was in an extremely competitive fight.

And MAB sure has hell didnt lose before the FIRST Pacquiao fight, which u failed to mention.

I mean if we are debating resumes here its an absolute joke. Pacquiaos is SOOOO much better its no comparison. He has at LEAST 3 all time greats on his resume, including MAB, Morales, and Marquez, and at least 5 future hall of famers.

Mayweather has a whopping 0 all time greats and MAYBE 2 or 3 hall of famers
Marquez being an ATG is arguable, but if you're going to put him for pac then you have to put him for Mayweather.
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:21 PM #17
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Mayweather didn't fight Marquez too?
im OBVIOUSLY not couting that win for Mayweather, that joke was a complete farce. Mayweather was like 2 feet taller then Marquez and like twice as big.

Not to mention Marquez had to jump 2 weight classes. Mayweather should be EMBARASSED that he shared a ring with marquez the way he did
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He's right. Floyd deserves credit for all of his WW victories, but none of them were against elite WW's.

Mitchell was a tuneup
Zab just lost to Baldomir
Baldomir sucks; having the Ring belt don't make him elite
Hatton was an ex WW titlist; credible WW, but not an elite WW
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You do realize Morales was coming of a loss ALL THREE TIMES Pac fought him?

You do realize MAB was coming of a loss the THE SECOND TIME Pac fought him?

Those are the men Pac built his legacy off of. I guess that legacy is in shambles.
who is talking about Pacquiao? jesus christ.
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