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View Poll Results: James Toney Or Lennox Lewis? Who's Greater?
Toney Should Be Remembered As The Greater Fighter 21 30.43%
Lewis Should Be Remembered As The Greater Fighter 48 69.57%
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Old 04-24-2010, 10:50 AM
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What top fighters did Lewis beat according to you?
your the 1 arguing against it go and disect hes career honestly and get back to me
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Old 04-24-2010, 10:51 AM
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The last true UNDISPUTED heavyweight and LINEAL CHAMPION...Lennox Lewis. Have a nice day
Being the lineal champion doesnt make you great, ask Buster Douglas. Lewis was stripped of all his belts for refusing to fight: Byrd, Ruiz and Vitali.
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Old 04-24-2010, 10:52 AM
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your the 1 arguing against it go and disect hes career honestly and get back to me
What top fighters did he beat, according to you? Surely you must have some idea otherwise you cant defend you position.
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Old 04-24-2010, 10:54 AM
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Based on what Criteria? who did Lewis beat that was comparable to Nunn or McCallum? Toney koed Holyfield something that Lewis couldnt do in 24 rounds
Based on having all the belts. Based on avenging his two losses. Based on beating EVERY fighter he ever faced. Based on fact. Stop trashing his accomplishments. He beat the best of his era handily. Stop finding reasons to trash this Hall of Famer. Based on retiring on top. Based on retiring under his own terms. Did I mention the Hall of Fame status? Based on his Olympic accomplishments. Based on his Amatuer background. I can go on and on. Please stop trashing the good people of the sport just for a failing arguement
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Old 04-24-2010, 10:57 AM
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Based on having all the belts. Based on avenging his two losses. Based on beating EVERY fighter he ever faced. Based on fact. Stop trashing his accomplishments. He beat the best of his era handily. Stop finding reasons to trash this Hall of Famer. Based on retiring on top. Based on retiring under his own terms. Did I mention the Hall of Fame status? Based on his Olympic accomplishments. Based on his Amatuer background. I can go on and on. Please stop trashing the good people of the sport just for a failing arguement
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Old 04-24-2010, 11:01 AM
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What top fighters did he beat, according to you? Surely you must have some idea otherwise you cant defend you position.
olympic gold medalist stopping riddick bowe
solid wins over
tyrell biggs
razor ruddock
tony tucker
frank bruno
tommy morrison
ray mercer (distputed in some circles)
henry akinwande
andrew golota
shannon briggs (was still classed as lineal champ)
evander holyfield (clearly won the first and won the 2nd)
michael grant (considered the next best thing because of hes passport)
francois botha
david tua
mike tyson (imo would of beat any version of tyson but even in the faded version still nice to have to name sake)
vitaly klitschko(ppl talk about this fight because lewis was behind after 5 but championship fights are fought over 12 rounds and at time of stoppage both fighters was blowing out there arses but lewis was getting into the task)

hes loses to mccal and rahman hurt hes legacy but at least he avenged both defeats which looks nice in history
now disect me toneys
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Old 04-24-2010, 11:02 AM
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only names missing from hes era are michael moorer george foreman and riddick bowe
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Old 04-24-2010, 11:03 AM
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you also say he was stripped of all hes titles he vacated the wba and ibf because of there mandatories (ruiz and byrdd) and retired on the wbc
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Old 04-24-2010, 11:03 AM
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Based on having all the belts.
Due to the fact that there are so many belts, the original belt holder has to be taken into account as well.
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Based on avenging his two losses. Based on beating EVERY fighter he ever faced. Based on fact. Stop trashing his accomplishments.
First of all dont tell me what to do and secondly where have I lied?
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He beat the best of his era handily. Stop finding reasons to trash this Hall of Famer. Based on retiring on top. Based on retiring under his own terms.
After beating Holyfiled to become the undisputed champion Lewis vacated his IBF belt to avoid facing Byrd. He would later on vacate his WBA belt to avoid facing Ruiz. Due to the inconclisive nature of his win over Vitali he was ordered by the WBC to give Vitali a rematch, he said he would then chose to retire instead. Is this great according to you? He never beat the best of his ers handily either, there were a number of fighters he struggled with Bruno, Rahman, Holyfield, McCall
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Did I mention the Hall of Fame status? Based on his Olympic accomplishments. Based on his Amatuer background. I can go on and on. Please stop trashing the good people of the sport just for a failing arguement
Toney is a hof as well. I have never trashed Lewis accomplishments either, what have I lied about? Was the Tyson he beat prime to you?
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Old 04-24-2010, 11:09 AM
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olympic gold medalist stopping riddick bowe
solid wins over
What has his Amateur career got to do with his pro career?
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tyrell biggs
razor ruddock
tony tucker
frank bruno
tommy morrison
ray mercer (distputed in some circles)
henry akinwande
andrew golota
shannon briggs (was still classed as lineal champ)
evander holyfield (clearly won the first and won the 2nd)
michael grant (considered the next best thing because of hes passport)
francois botha
david tua
mike tyson (imo would of beat any version of tyson but even in the faded version still nice to have to name sake)
vitaly klitschko(ppl talk about this fight because lewis was behind after 5 but championship fights are fought over 12 rounds and at time of stoppage both fighters was blowing out there arses but lewis was getting into the task)

hes loses to mccal and rahman hurt hes legacy but at least he avenged both defeats which looks nice in history
now disect me toneys
Dude you are trolling with this: Grant? Biggs? Frank Bruno? Akinwande? Morrison? Briggs? Botha?
Are these elite fighters to you? Bruno was a C class fighter at best. Ruddock was shot to hell after two wars with Tyson, why aren't you taking any of this stuff into account? Mercer deserved a rematch and Lewis never gave him one either
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