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Old 04-02-2010, 01:32 PM
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Default Higher On A ATG List, Roy Jones Jr Or Joe Frazier?

Who do you think should rank higher on a ATG list?
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Old 04-02-2010, 01:44 PM
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Unquestionably Roy Jones.

Frazier is still an ATG though.
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Old 04-02-2010, 02:17 PM
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Unquestionably Roy Jones.

Frazier is still an ATG though.
Reasons why?
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Old 04-02-2010, 02:20 PM
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Joe Frazier.

Fought in one of the greatest era's, beat Ali, fought everybody and only lost to Ali and Foreman.
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Old 04-02-2010, 02:40 PM
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Who do you think should rank higher on a ATG list?
Roy Jones
Four division weight champion
best wins:
Toney(atg)
Hopkins(atg)
McCallum(past prime)(atg)
Johnson(past prime)
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Old 04-02-2010, 03:24 PM
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Joe Frazier.

Fought in one of the greatest era's, beat Ali, fought everybody and only lost to Ali and Foreman.
"Fought everybody" is a HIGHLY questionable statement when it comes to Joe Frazier.

Roy Jones was a better fighter P4P than Joe Frazier. No doubt. One of the most gifted boxers of all time, he totally dominated and embarassed everybody, including a 2 time heavyweight champion. He often looked bored he was that much better than everyone else.
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Roy Jones
Four division weight champion
best wins:
Toney(atg)
Hopkins(atg)
McCallum(past prime)(atg)
Johnson(past prime)
RUiz?!.....
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Old 04-02-2010, 03:50 PM
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Who do you think should rank higher on a ATG list?
this is easy! its roy jones! by a mile! besides beating a rusty ali what else did frazier really do that was great? Roy was the best pound for pound fighter from 1994 til 2003, winning titles from middleweight up to heavyweight
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Old 04-02-2010, 03:54 PM
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Joe Frazier.

Fought in one of the greatest era's, beat Ali, fought everybody and only lost to Ali and Foreman.
fought every one??? he didnt fight norton, patterson, holmes or ron lyle
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Old 04-02-2010, 05:57 PM
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Hi Box2008, it looks like a few others have beaten me to this reply but Roy Jones dazzled the world and captured titles in a number of weight classes over ten years. Middle, Super middle, Light Heavy, Heavy and again light heavy.

Frazier was a superb fighter but his peak came and went within five years. His excellent victories over Ellis, Quarry, Bonavena, Ali and Bugner establish him as an ATG but only the Ali win really stands out.

Jones was arguably rated pound for pound number one for a decade and had a much greater number of winning title fights/defenses than Frazier in this time. Roy's victories over decent world champions Hopkins, Toney, Tarver, Griffin, Hill and Ruiz elevate him over Frazier for me. He also beat future world champs in Malinga and Woods. Most of the time he was so superior to even these guys!
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