all this Pacman being non-American but still a draw bull **** is what I called it

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"Pacquiao is a non-American who doesent speak english yet he still is a big draw"<<<
this is not a legitimate or valid line or any thing amazing. "Its amazing how 2 non americans filled 50k seats."

At the end of the day the 2 biggest names in boxing are Mayweather and Pacquiao, Pacquiao SHOULD be doing good numbers and he already has high expectations to meet no matter where he came from. He has been on 12 PPV's in the U.S. excluding the times he has been on regular HBO. Some fight fan sitting at home on fight night: "Well I dont know it I should be ordering this, Pacquiao is not American...but **** it. Im going to order it just because its Pacquiao."<<< it doesent work that way. If a fighter is known, then he is known, its simple.

[Khalid X]

It does matter because the biggest part of pac fan base isn't equated into ppv numbers (filipino's watching in the philipines, and also asian's in the pacific area). Thats like looking at Hatton's numbers without adding his buys in England, Koki Kameda numbers without adding the people watching his fight in japan, and the list goes on and on. Point is this; When the biggest part of your fan base isn't taken into consideration, then its damn impressive to still do numbers in a foreign country.

[ModernTalking]

PAC is not an American so it doesn't help much. Think about it, Pac can't say what Floyd said. American need to support me like they support the US troops. If Pac said that they would say FU.

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It does matter because the biggest part of pac fan base isn't equated into ppv numbers (filipino's watching in the philipines, and also asian's in the pacific area). Thats like looking at Hatton's numbers without adding his buys in England, Koki Kameda numbers without adding the people watching his fight in japan, and the list goes on and on. Point is this; When the biggest part of your fan base isn't taken into consideration, then its damn impressive to still do numbers in a foreign country.

Pac fights in the phillipines are not on PPV. But Its not impressive because Hatton and Pac are still the bigger names in America. If you are name you are name. Do you really think if Pacquiao and Hatton were out of the picture then Pavlik, Alexander, and Ward would all automatically be mega stars? Would they draw 700k+ on PPV just because they are American?

[ИATAS]

How many non-americans and non-mexicans have done well in PPV's over the years?

Not too many, Trinidad being one of the very few.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Whether he speaks good English or not. Hes a star. Hes suppose to do good numbers at this stage of his career.

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And also, There is no Phillipino more famous than Pacquiao, he has his face on stamps ffs. Phillipinos are the 2nd largest Asian group in the US and that is saying somethine because every where I go I see asians.

[ModernTalking]

I don't know what you're trying to get but if Pac was an American he would totally sell more.

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Whether he speaks good English or not. Hes a star. Hes suppose to do good numbers at this stage of his career.

Exactly.......

If Daisuke Nakagawa, in present time, had the same exact exposure and accomplishments of Pacquiao and he was the most famous greatest hero of Japan, you can bet he would be next to Mayweather as the biggest name in America.

[Khalid X]

Pac fights in the phillipines are not on PPV. But Its not impressive because Hatton and Pac are still the bigger names in America. If you are name you are name. Do you really think if Pacquiao and Hatton were out of the picture then Pavlik, Alexander, and Ward would all automatically be mega stars? Would they draw 700k+ on PPV just because they are American?

pav, alexander and ward would not draw 700k unless it was a megafight against another star. Also you just proved my point...pac ppv's arent on ppv in the phillipines. If they were he would do 1.5-2 million buys each and every fight. That is were the bulk of his fan base is. May, Pav, and all these other american fighters whole fan base is basically in america (atleast the bulk of it). So again...yes it is impressive that a non-american is doing those type of numbers.

BTW name a non-american that has done numbers in america? You have 15 years of PPV history to try and look through to find someone..........