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Old 03-18-2010, 08:52 AM
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Default If boxers are doping, they're most likely using EPO

People please stop saying that these boxers are using HGH. They probably aren't because it would make you bigger. But EPO also known as Erythropoietin, can make a boxers endurance soar above the average mans endurance. I gathered some information on EPO for the people who aren't familiar with the Performance enhancing drug.


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Erythropoietin (EPO) is an artificial hormone that allows the blood to carry more oxygen, thus boosting endurance. It is consider a method of blood doping which can increase the volume of blood which contains red blood cells. This will in turn increase an athletes VO2 max (aerobic capacity) allowing more oxygen to be transported to the muscles.

There are currently two tests for EPO. A urine test and a blood test. According to Dr. Don Catlin Who headed the Drug testing Lab for the Salt lake olympics, "[T]o be convicted of an EPO offense athletes must test positive for EPO with the urine EPO test [which] it is a direct test that detects the actual presence of recombinant EPO" There is also a blood test which tells "the testers that the athlete has an unusual blood profile that warrants further investigation." Prompting a Urine test. The test is only effective for use going back about a week.

Shane Mosley used EPO

In the testimony, recorded on Dec. 11, 2003, at the federal courthouse in San Francisco, Mosley also said that BALCO founder Victor Conte explained in detail how the drug was used and what its effects would be, including the potential harmful effects of the highly-regulated endurance booster. Mosley has admitted publicly and under oath that he used steroids and EPO, but has denied knowing that the drugs were banned or illegal.

When asked if he had gotten EPO from Conte, Mosley replied: ***8220;Yes, the hematocrit.***8221;

***8220;And that***8217;s something you actually inject into yourself?***8221; he was asked by Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeff Nedrow.

***8220;I think it***8217;s right by your stomach, yes,***8221; Mosley said, indicating where the drug is often injected.

Conte has said he instructed Mosley on techniques for drawing EPO from a bottle with a syringe and injecting it in each side of the belly button in what is known as ***8220;double-saturation***8221; injections.

At one point in the questioning, Nedrow produced a calendar seized from the BALCO lab showing Mosley used a potent ****tail of steroids and EPO right up until a few days before his victorious fight with De La Hoya on Sept. 13, 2003. The calendars denote which days Mosley was supposed to take which substances

PAUSE: let's get this straight... He was using a potent "****TAIL" of drugs and EPO?!?!?! Hmmm, at the time that Mosley was on steroids, Conte was his strength and conditioning coach... I can think of another strength and conditioning coach who likes to give his fighters these mystery ****TAILS/SHAKES. Isn't his name Alex Ariza? Hmmmmm. EPO can increase your endurance therefore rendering someone to be able to throw over a thousand punches in a fight huh??? We'll never know until Boxing steps its drug testing program up.
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Old 03-18-2010, 09:02 AM
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I've heard of whispers there's a slick boxer who have been using illegal substance and has never been caught and he even retired once...
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Old 03-18-2010, 09:04 AM
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I've heard of whispers there's a slick boxer who have been using illegal substance and has never been caught and he even retired once...
i heard about that too.....
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People comparing a painkiller to steroids are retards. That's like saying taking an Aspirin is the same as a Winstrol. End of discussion.
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Old 03-18-2010, 09:22 AM
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People comparing a painkiller to steroids are retards. That's like saying taking an Aspirin is the same as a Winstrol. End of discussion.
Huh?

Who's talking about painkillers?

Anyway, i've heard also some whispers this slick boxer has some serious problems with his bones on some parts of his body, they say the causes could been to too much dosage as he is getting addicted. Lately though, he has to take some serious look on his career that he's thinking of an easy way out to maintain his self invented stature.
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Old 03-18-2010, 09:42 AM
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wait, mosley took epo a couple days before the fight and it didnt show up in his postfight urine test? hmmmmmmmmm
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wait, mosley took epo a couple days before the fight and it didnt show up in his postfight urine test? hmmmmmmmmm
Testing is always one step behind PEDs, the boxing commissions tests are 2 steps behind.
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People please stop saying that these boxers are using HGH. They probably aren't because it would make you bigger. But EPO also known as Erythropoietin, can make a boxers endurance soar above the average mans endurance. I gathered some information on EPO for the people who aren't familiar with the Performance enhancing drug.


EPO
Erythropoietin (EPO) is an artificial hormone that allows the blood to carry more oxygen, thus boosting endurance. It is consider a method of blood doping which can increase the volume of blood which contains red blood cells. This will in turn increase an athletes VO2 max (aerobic capacity) allowing more oxygen to be transported to the muscles.

There are currently two tests for EPO. A urine test and a blood test. According to Dr. Don Catlin Who headed the Drug testing Lab for the Salt lake olympics, "[T]o be convicted of an EPO offense athletes must test positive for EPO with the urine EPO test [which] it is a direct test that detects the actual presence of recombinant EPO" There is also a blood test which tells "the testers that the athlete has an unusual blood profile that warrants further investigation." Prompting a Urine test. The test is only effective for use going back about a week.

Shane Mosley used EPO

In the testimony, recorded on Dec. 11, 2003, at the federal courthouse in San Francisco, Mosley also said that BALCO founder Victor Conte explained in detail how the drug was used and what its effects would be, including the potential harmful effects of the highly-regulated endurance booster. Mosley has admitted publicly and under oath that he used steroids and EPO, but has denied knowing that the drugs were banned or illegal.

When asked if he had gotten EPO from Conte, Mosley replied: “Yes, the hematocrit.”

“And that’s something you actually inject into yourself?” he was asked by Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeff Nedrow.

“I think it’s right by your stomach, yes,” Mosley said, indicating where the drug is often injected.

Conte has said he instructed Mosley on techniques for drawing EPO from a bottle with a syringe and injecting it in each side of the belly button in what is known as “double-saturation” injections.

At one point in the questioning, Nedrow produced a calendar seized from the BALCO lab showing Mosley used a potent ****tail of steroids and EPO right up until a few days before his victorious fight with De La Hoya on Sept. 13, 2003. The calendars denote which days Mosley was supposed to take which substances

PAUSE: let's get this straight... He was using a potent "****TAIL" of drugs and EPO?!?!?! Hmmm, at the time that Mosley was on steroids, Conte was his strength and conditioning coach... I can think of another strength and conditioning coach who likes to give his fighters these mystery ****TAILS/SHAKES. Isn't his name Alex Ariza? Hmmmmm. EPO can increase your endurance therefore rendering someone to be able to throw over a thousand punches in a fight huh??? We'll never know until Boxing steps its drug testing program up.
Ike Ibeabuchi and David Tua threw like a thousand punches each when they fought, so have a bunch of people, get over it
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Old 03-18-2010, 06:05 PM
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Ike Ibeabuchi and David Tua threw like a thousand punches each when they fought, so have a bunch of people, get over it
How many did it 15 years, 60 fights and several divisions into their pro career?
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