Bookmark Website  | Free Registration  | The Team
Boxing Champions |  Boxing Schedule |  Boxing Video  |  Boxing History   |  Pound For Pound  | Lounge  | The Wire |  Audio  | Arcade

Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing
Reply
Thread Navigation

#11
Old 03-15-2010, 07:56 PM
joeyg512
Contender
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Texas
Age: 36
Posts: 183
Rep Power: 6 joeyg512 is on a distinguished road
Points: 13,236.10
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 13,236.10
Default

I could've sworn Mosley was the lineal champ at ww. I guess he lost it for being inactive.
Reply With Quote
joeyg512 is offline
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
#12
Old 03-15-2010, 07:59 PM
jrosales13
undisputed champion
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Converse TX
Age: 30
Posts: 33,015
Rep Power: 77 jrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 383,418,950,985.24
Bank: 3.85
Total Points: 383,418,950,989.09
13 burgers - Dambala Good poster - Mucus Great poster/member award! - jazluvr Leader of the MannyPac Mafia, a real OG - Erik13 For being one of the most solid posters in the History of BoxingScene!!!!  Keep on posting bruh. - Chief2ndzOnly! 
more beer - -pound4pound- Maidana p4p GOAT - Dick Buffman These are really good - jazluvr This place would not be the same without you Jro... you rock - Lorily for being a great poster - led 
For keepin' it real - jazluvr hope you get drunk :) - led Thanks for hooking me up with your cousin - Heebarican oscar haters need beer - -pound4pound- Merry X-mas!!! - HandSpeed303 
Happy Holidays Jro! - Lorily Have a slice - SouthpawSwagger Here is a beer for you homie!! - el20cuatro Fellow Leuzinger Olympian - MANIAC310 Happy Holidays JRo! - Lorily 
Children with Disabilities - Parkinson's Disease - VACTERL - Young Onset Parkinson's Association - Akinapepemo World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - Timmy Chans World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - Timmy Chans Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - jazluvr Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - jazluvr 
Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - jazluvr World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - MANIAC310 Children with Disabilities - Parkinson's Disease - VACTERL - Young Onset Parkinson's Association - Ether 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyg512 View Post
I could've sworn Mosley was the lineal champ at ww. I guess he lost it for being inactive.
You don't lose your lineal claim from inactivity.
Reply With Quote
jrosales13 is offline
#13
Old 03-15-2010, 08:03 PM
crold1
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,481
Rep Power: 22 crold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,184,610.16
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 10,184,610.16
I totally agree with your p4p rankings, Pac is definitely above Floyd. - Neutral 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kindle View Post
Is the Mayweather vs Mosley fight for the Lineal Championship? I believe Mosley currently has the lineal championship but it's so confusing I'm not so sure anymore.
It will be recognized as such by the ratings compiled at this site. Cyberboxingzone recognizes Mosley already. I don't because, at the time Mosley beat Margarito, I thought he still needed another win over Cotto who had won against him. Mosley, as the or a leading Welter is getting first crack at the man who retired as the lineal champ. Historically, in cases like Johnson-Jeffries and Ali-Holmes, the man who beat the man who walked away was able to claim the full lineage. Mosley will earn as much if he wins. If Floyd wins, he earns the right to say he is what he was: the genuine champion until he is beaten. Ring's take will be different, but then Ring will tell people a week from now that Kameda-Wonjongkam will "fill" a vacancy which is complete BS. It simply verifies a lineage that extends to Canto in the 70s. Kameda is ALREADY the champ.
Reply With Quote
crold1 is offline
#14
Old 03-15-2010, 08:04 PM
Jim Jeffries
rugged individualist
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Ameritopia, U.S.S.A.
Posts: 21,672
Rep Power: 87 Jim Jeffries has a reputation beyond reputeJim Jeffries has a reputation beyond reputeJim Jeffries has a reputation beyond reputeJim Jeffries has a reputation beyond reputeJim Jeffries has a reputation beyond reputeJim Jeffries has a reputation beyond reputeJim Jeffries has a reputation beyond reputeJim Jeffries has a reputation beyond reputeJim Jeffries has a reputation beyond reputeJim Jeffries has a reputation beyond reputeJim Jeffries has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,750,616.29
Bank: 31,277,504,008,165.20
Total Points: 31,277,505,758,781.49
U.S.A. Forever!!!!!!! - Mike Tyson77 Have a brew with your boy Pea, Jim.... - Shin Akuma have a gift.. - Miyagi To a very intelligent poster! - abosworth Republican Jockholder - alfonso13702 
merry xmas - msagrain Happy 10K Posts - Golden Boy 360 congrats on 10K jim...cheers - Makavelli 10,000!! - tyson 10k! - Equilibrium 
Too bad it ain't Cotto's Schlong!! - chicano79us Preach on!!! - -veteran420- have some san miguel - Akinapepemo have some san miguel - Akinapepemo yeah - BoxingTech718 
You get the Glen Beck award. Thanks for having my back brother - Mike Tyson77 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year - Freedom. Happy Holidays  Jim.. - !! AI-Holmes!! Happy holidays bro! - led* Sorry you're asian and ugly.  This will make you feel better. - robust_ 
Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - mangler World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - Mr._Pink World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - street bully AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - mangler Children with Disabilities - Parkinson's Disease - VACTERL - Young Onset Parkinson's Association - Akinapepemo 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - codey 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyg512 View Post
I could've sworn Mosley was the lineal champ at ww. I guess he lost it for being inactive.
No, because Mosley wasn't number 2 or 3 when he beat Margarito.

Losing to Cotto had knocked him down.
Reply With Quote
Jim Jeffries is offline
#15
Old 03-15-2010, 08:06 PM
joeyg512
Contender
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Texas
Age: 36
Posts: 183
Rep Power: 6 joeyg512 is on a distinguished road
Points: 13,236.10
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 13,236.10
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrosales13 View Post
You don't lose your lineal claim from inactivity.
Ok well who was the #1 ww before Pac came up.
Reply With Quote
joeyg512 is offline
#16
Old 03-15-2010, 08:08 PM
jrosales13
undisputed champion
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Converse TX
Age: 30
Posts: 33,015
Rep Power: 77 jrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond reputejrosales13 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 383,418,950,985.24
Bank: 3.85
Total Points: 383,418,950,989.09
13 burgers - Dambala Good poster - Mucus Great poster/member award! - jazluvr Leader of the MannyPac Mafia, a real OG - Erik13 For being one of the most solid posters in the History of BoxingScene!!!!  Keep on posting bruh. - Chief2ndzOnly! 
more beer - -pound4pound- Maidana p4p GOAT - Dick Buffman These are really good - jazluvr This place would not be the same without you Jro... you rock - Lorily for being a great poster - led 
For keepin' it real - jazluvr hope you get drunk :) - led Thanks for hooking me up with your cousin - Heebarican oscar haters need beer - -pound4pound- Merry X-mas!!! - HandSpeed303 
Happy Holidays Jro! - Lorily Have a slice - SouthpawSwagger Here is a beer for you homie!! - el20cuatro Fellow Leuzinger Olympian - MANIAC310 Happy Holidays JRo! - Lorily 
Children with Disabilities - Parkinson's Disease - VACTERL - Young Onset Parkinson's Association - Akinapepemo World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - Timmy Chans World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - Timmy Chans Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - jazluvr Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - jazluvr 
Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - jazluvr World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - MANIAC310 Children with Disabilities - Parkinson's Disease - VACTERL - Young Onset Parkinson's Association - Ether 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyg512 View Post
Ok well who was the #1 ww before Pac came up.
The Ring had Shane Ranked at #1 but the title vacant. I am not sure how boxingscene had it though. Maybe Cliff can answer that. But, as Cliff also pointed out that Cyberboxingzone has Shane as the lineal champ.
Reply With Quote
jrosales13 is offline
#17
Old 03-15-2010, 08:09 PM
crold1
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,481
Rep Power: 22 crold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,184,610.16
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 10,184,610.16
I totally agree with your p4p rankings, Pac is definitely above Floyd. - Neutral 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by crold1 View Post
It will be recognized as such by the ratings compiled at this site. Cyberboxingzone recognizes Mosley already. I don't because, at the time Mosley beat Margarito, I thought he still needed another win over Cotto who had won against him. Mosley, as the or a leading Welter is getting first crack at the man who retired as the lineal champ. Historically, in cases like Johnson-Jeffries and Ali-Holmes, the man who beat the man who walked away was able to claim the full lineage. Mosley will earn as much if he wins. If Floyd wins, he earns the right to say he is what he was: the genuine champion until he is beaten. Ring's take will be different, but then Ring will tell people a week from now that Kameda-Wonjongkam will "fill" a vacancy which is complete BS. It simply verifies a lineage that extends to Canto in the 70s. Kameda is ALREADY the champ.
To add, I know from discussing how to regard Margarito-Mosley that CBZ took into account that, had Margarito won against Shane, with Williams up at 54, the lineage would CLEARLY have gone to Tony.

That brings us to May 1 and a new (or old) lineal champ. Pac will be their #1 contender.
Reply With Quote
crold1 is offline
#18
Old 03-15-2010, 08:11 PM
crold1
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,481
Rep Power: 22 crold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond reputecrold1 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 10,184,610.16
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 10,184,610.16
I totally agree with your p4p rankings, Pac is definitely above Floyd. - Neutral 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrosales13 View Post
The Ring had Shane Ranked at #1 but the title vacant. I am not sure how boxingscene had it though. Maybe Cliff can answer that. But, as Cliff also pointed out that Cyberboxingzone has Shane as the lineal champ.
Ring and our ratings were the same: Tony, Cotto, Mosley. I considered Mosley but said before the fight he couldn't be recognized without beating Cotto whereas, with Williams campaigning already at 54, Margarito could have claimed the title. CBZ is closer to reality than Ring ratings which say May 1 can't fill the crown.
Reply With Quote
crold1 is offline
#19
Old 03-15-2010, 08:11 PM
joeyg512
Contender
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Texas
Age: 36
Posts: 183
Rep Power: 6 joeyg512 is on a distinguished road
Points: 13,236.10
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 13,236.10
Default

IMO I still think Shane is the #1 ww.
Reply With Quote
joeyg512 is offline
#20
Old 03-15-2010, 08:14 PM
-MAKAVELLI-
deicide
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 54,215
Rep Power: 299 -MAKAVELLI- has a reputation beyond repute-MAKAVELLI- has a reputation beyond repute-MAKAVELLI- has a reputation beyond repute-MAKAVELLI- has a reputation beyond repute-MAKAVELLI- has a reputation beyond repute-MAKAVELLI- has a reputation beyond repute-MAKAVELLI- has a reputation beyond repute-MAKAVELLI- has a reputation beyond repute-MAKAVELLI- has a reputation beyond repute-MAKAVELLI- has a reputation beyond repute-MAKAVELLI- has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 600,113,083,963,045.12
Bank: 174,695,677,796,963,488.00
Total Points: 175,295,790,880,926,528.00
Great Poster - Mr. Fantastic Feliz Navidad - El Mustang merry xmas - Ether Happy Holidays Makie!  :kiss: - Lorily Christmas Beer! Cheers you crazy bastard. - ThePhantom5 
42k post medal! - Flabulous For good luck - jazluvr I heard you're big, but don't worry Tua is bigger - Uns Happy holidays bro! - led* Happy New Year, bro. - Libido Sanchez 
Happy Holidays MAKAVELLI - !! AI-Holmes!! have a Happy and safe New Years bro! - jose830 Happy New Year - Freedom. Tagay para sa new year! - led* Happy Holidays, bud! - jazluvr 
Funniest poster on site, here's a burger - jas Old School Thread - -jose- From your pal, BeerBro - Beercules damn son! you one handsome fellow! and with all do respect...Wow!!! that girl you with is Bad!!! definitely wifey material. - -jose- Sorry for the my in the moment RED K, here is a medal. - BrushMyHair 
Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - S a m u r a i Head and Neck Cancer - S a m u r a i Alzheimer's - Crohn's & Colitis - Cystic Fibrosis - Domestic Violence - Fibromyalgia - Leimyosarcoma - Lupus - S a m u r a i Childhood Cancer - ??? Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - Jim Jeffries 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - deanrw Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - The Gully Gad Children with Disabilities - Parkinson's Disease - VACTERL - Young Onset Parkinson's Association - Pretty Boy32 Breast Cancer - Birth Parents - dans01234 Head and Neck Cancer - PensionKiller 
Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - JM1 Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - Akinapepemo Children with Disabilities - Parkinson's Disease - VACTERL - Young Onset Parkinson's Association - Akinapepemo Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - MARKBNLV Childhood Cancer - LeeVanCleef 
Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - jazluvr Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - Ether Children with Disabilities - Parkinson's Disease - VACTERL - Young Onset Parkinson's Association - Ether Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - jose830 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by crold1 View Post
Ring and our ratings were the same: Tony, Cotto, Mosley. I considered Mosley but said before the fight he couldn't be recognized without beating Cotto whereas, with Williams campaigning already at 54, Margarito could have claimed the title. CBZ is closer to reality than Ring ratings which say May 1 can't fill the crown.



Cliff, a while ago we discussed the p4p ranking and you cited two factors in a PAC drop from the top; 1) a PBF win over shane and 2) a subpar performance by PAC against Clottey


i wouldn't consider the PAC outing subpar but let's say PBF looks dominant...does he leapfrog to the top spot?
Reply With Quote
-MAKAVELLI- is online now
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
lineal, mayweather, mosley, title

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Privacy Policy - Submit News - Feedback - Site Map - Advertise with Us

Copyright 2003-2013 BoxingScene LLC All rights reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:35 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.