Who can beat gsp at ww?? - Boxing Forum
  Trending Topics  | Free Registration  | The Team
Boxing Champions |  Boxing Schedule |  Boxing Video  |  Boxing History   |  Pound For Pound  | Lounge  | The Wire | Arcade

Navigation
Reply
Thread Navigation

#1
Old 03-14-2010, 02:29 PM
No1
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: East London
Posts: 2,493
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 14 No1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 20,326,709.58
Bank: 17,507,361,591.72
Total Points: 17,527,688,301.30
Default Who can beat gsp at ww??

I've been a fan of mma for a good few years now, and im just wondering how long will gsp reign at ww and who can defeat him?? Im not a big gsp fan, I agree he's a superb fighter but his takedown after takedown tactics bore me. I just think the only way he losses to anyone is if he moves up to mw and fights larger men, Like say a.silva or vitor belfort. I know it wont happen unless the ufc agree a catch weight fight. I thorght alves who has world
class muay thai and world class takedown defence would have the best chance, but gsp took him down at will and made his stand up useless. So do you guys agree, that currently no one comes close to beating this guy at 170pounds??
Reply With Quote
No1 is offline
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
#2
Old 03-14-2010, 03:34 PM
Bullrush
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,446
Quoted: 81 Post(s)
Rep Power: 17 Bullrush has a reputation beyond reputeBullrush has a reputation beyond reputeBullrush has a reputation beyond reputeBullrush has a reputation beyond reputeBullrush has a reputation beyond reputeBullrush has a reputation beyond reputeBullrush has a reputation beyond reputeBullrush has a reputation beyond reputeBullrush has a reputation beyond reputeBullrush has a reputation beyond reputeBullrush has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 80,070,696.18
Bank: 355,110,909,054.33
Total Points: 355,190,979,750.51
Default

josh koscheck & jon fitch

and then you have paulo thiago, alves, and paul daley maybe but i dont think these 3 can beat GSP. thiago alves needs to use his leg kicks and knees if he wants to beat GSP. paulo isnt strong enough and wont be able to submit GSP. daley sucks on the ground.
Reply With Quote
Bullrush is offline
#3
Old 03-14-2010, 04:17 PM
TheNegation
No Picks
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Age: 28
Posts: 2,895
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Rep Power: 18 TheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 14,101,144,953.93
Bank: 8,175.94
Total Points: 14,101,153,129.87
To a fuckfaced know-nothing - ƒallenloki 
Default

At WW, nobody.

But I'd have to say Nick Diaz or Koscheck would have the best shot.
Reply With Quote
TheNegation is offline
#4
Old 03-14-2010, 05:38 PM
Sammy J
Up and Comer
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Visalia, Cali
Posts: 44
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 0 Sammy J is on a distinguished road
Points: 2,241.53
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 2,241.53
Send a message via AIM to Sammy J
Default

Josh Koscheck already fought GSP and had his chance. Why the hell would I wanna see that again? I think Koscheck poses no threat to GSP. There's only two fighters that are capable of beating GSP.

Those two fighters are PAUL DALEY and NICK DIAZ.

Nick Diaz isn't in the UFC and I don't see him going back in the near future. Strikeforce will try their best to keep him there. I know Nick wants to fight GSP really bad, but I doubt that fight will EVER happen.

Paul Daley is going to fight Koscheck (UFC 114) and Daley is going to make a fool out of Koscheck. Believe it. GSP is scared of Daley.

One thing I know for sure is that I do not want to see a rematch with Jon Fitch.
Reply With Quote
Sammy J is offline
#5
Old 03-14-2010, 07:10 PM
F l i c k e r
Gunslinger
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 18,052
Quoted: 163 Post(s)
Rep Power: 50 F l i c k e r has a reputation beyond reputeF l i c k e r has a reputation beyond reputeF l i c k e r has a reputation beyond reputeF l i c k e r has a reputation beyond reputeF l i c k e r has a reputation beyond reputeF l i c k e r has a reputation beyond reputeF l i c k e r has a reputation beyond reputeF l i c k e r has a reputation beyond reputeF l i c k e r has a reputation beyond reputeF l i c k e r has a reputation beyond reputeF l i c k e r has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 172,801.56
Bank: 1,001,665,981,099,339.25
Total Points: 1,001,665,981,272,140.75
Have one on me brotha. - Move BRICKS Cool cat, good poster - mangler cocktail hour - MANGLER Viva Antonio Margarito!!! - Jack Ruby more drank - MANGLER 
BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Benny rocks! - Bloody$Nate$ good to have people like you on this forum - BoZz Merry Christmas - Flab Merry Christmas :] - dj emzz Happy holidays bro! - led 
Happy Easter :D  :kiss: - Bossy i like your avatar - zab191 Cheers, to huge titties. - Very Rich Man Happy 15k posts darling! :kiss: - Bossy Happy birthday babe! I hope you have a wonderful day. love and kisses :kiss: - Bossy 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - MANGLER Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - MANGLER 
Default

Anyon who isn't afraid of being taken down. Everyone so far is scared ****less by being taken down, if your not afraid you will fight more confident but everyone so far is ****ting themselves when GSP shoots in.

I see it like this...
1. Dan Hardy
2. Paul Daley
3. Josh Koscheck
I say Dan Hardy because his stand up technique is second to none in the WW. If he is serious about not being afraid of the takedown, then I think he can pull it off. He isn't the best wrestler but he finds ways to get back to the feet. Dan better hope what he said is true because if he gets taken down and realizes just how strong GSP's hips are, he is fucked.

Paul Daley for obvious reasons. If you get caught clean by one of his hooks, your head is flying into the third row. He has the power to put anyone in the WW division to sleep. I want to see more of his wrestling though. GSP will dry hump him for sure, he wouldn't stand up with Daley for his life. So I want to see how Daley can do when he wrestles.

Josh Koscheck because before GSP became a wrestling god, Kos had the best wrestling in the division. Fuck what people say about Matt Hughes, Koscheck has better wrestling. He also found his standup, if he could negate the takedown, he has a puncher's chance standing up. Avoid the superman switch kick and he will be fine standing up.


I don't mention Nick Diaz because he isn't in the UFc. Nick Diaz has the ground game to beat GSP. Where GSP may wreslte the **** out of him, Diaz could submitt GSP from his back. Unlike BJ, Nick has the body of a WW, so he isn't going to be dwarfed. His legs will be able to reach around in the rubber guard if need be. Penn's legs couldn't do that, he was too small. Nick's stand up is also better than GSP's as far as punching goes. Less power, maybe, but all in all, Nick's hands are more on point than GSP's. I think GSP would still control him for the most part because Nick is WAAAAY too off and on of a fighter.


I'm still waiting for someone to throw the damn knee when GSP shoots in. 90% of the time that is a insta-kayo.
Reply With Quote
F l i c k e r is offline
#6
Old 03-14-2010, 08:10 PM
No1
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: East London
Posts: 2,493
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 14 No1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 20,326,709.58
Bank: 17,507,361,591.72
Total Points: 17,527,688,301.30
Default

I still dont believe anyone can at ww. Gsp fought koshcek before and beat him, thiago alves mauled kosh and he himself got thrown around by gsp. Jon fitch got punched about by gsp. Paul daley may have a chance, But you know as soon at he throws a punch, gsp will shoot for his legs and start to throw him around all night long. Paul daley with decent takedown defence would be the key, You need to have calculated agrresion and be able to time gsp's takdown and counter with knee's this would deter gsp and force him to stand up which is the far weaker part of his game. Its tricky trying to find a way to counter gsp, you cant counter punch him becuase he wont stand and punch he;ll just shoot. If your agressive he'll just take you down once you let your hands go. I cant see anyone beating him. If vitor belfort was a welter weight he'd have a great chance, He is a superb bjj fighter so could handle gsp on hte ground, plus he has the best punches in the game and could counter gsp when he goes to shoot.
Reply With Quote
No1 is offline
#7
Old 03-14-2010, 08:12 PM
kaps
Lords of Boxingscene
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: 209
Age: 34
Posts: 33,942
Quoted: 30 Post(s)
Rep Power: 114 kaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 3,701,202,094.15
Bank: 4,115,582,221,560,571.00
Total Points: 4,115,585,922,762,665.00
to kimbo - Congo Cash have a beer - MARKBNLV Respect....for 8 years!! - jazluvr just enjoy the beer! - led Happy Holidays.. - !! AI-Holmes!! 
30 K posts - -Tunney- 30,000 posts - ??? Congrats on 30k posts. - Hard Dick Merry Christmas - Flab xmas - Ether 
Merry Christmas kaps - TBear Happy Holidays.. - !! AI-Holmes!! Drink up homie!! - RIZO24 Diaz bro's greatest fan, serious, dude is nutz about this shiit haha - Unknown Champ Gettin' Money 4 Life - Unknown Champ 
10 years on BS.. - !! AI-Holmes!! congratulations on your 10th year - -Swizzy- 10 years! - jazluvr Happy holidays bro! - led* Happy Holidays kaps - !! AI-Holmes!! 
AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - ??? Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - MARKBNLV Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - ??? Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tengoshi 
AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - TBear Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - TBear Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - TBear Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - TBear Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - TBear 
Send a message via AIM to kaps
Default

Here is a list of fighters that can beat GSP at Welter Weight....

...
Reply With Quote
kaps is offline
#8
Old 03-14-2010, 08:16 PM
No1
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: East London
Posts: 2,493
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 14 No1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond reputeNo1 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 20,326,709.58
Bank: 17,507,361,591.72
Total Points: 17,527,688,301.30
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaps View Post
Here is a list of fighters that can beat GSP at Welter Weight....

...
lol true. Its a shame though that half the divisions in the ufc arnt even competitive. You have anderson silva at middleweight who no has a chance to beat, gsp at ww and bj penn at lw. It makes all the title fights very boring as you already know who is going to win with a 100% certainty. A.silva will ko maia. gsp will UD hardy and Bj penn with either tko or win a ud against edgar. Its kinda boring.
Reply With Quote
No1 is offline
#9
Old 03-14-2010, 08:22 PM
kaps
Lords of Boxingscene
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: 209
Age: 34
Posts: 33,942
Quoted: 30 Post(s)
Rep Power: 114 kaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond reputekaps has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 3,701,202,094.15
Bank: 4,115,582,221,560,571.00
Total Points: 4,115,585,922,762,665.00
to kimbo - Congo Cash have a beer - MARKBNLV Respect....for 8 years!! - jazluvr just enjoy the beer! - led Happy Holidays.. - !! AI-Holmes!! 
30 K posts - -Tunney- 30,000 posts - ??? Congrats on 30k posts. - Hard Dick Merry Christmas - Flab xmas - Ether 
Merry Christmas kaps - TBear Happy Holidays.. - !! AI-Holmes!! Drink up homie!! - RIZO24 Diaz bro's greatest fan, serious, dude is nutz about this shiit haha - Unknown Champ Gettin' Money 4 Life - Unknown Champ 
10 years on BS.. - !! AI-Holmes!! congratulations on your 10th year - -Swizzy- 10 years! - jazluvr Happy holidays bro! - led* Happy Holidays kaps - !! AI-Holmes!! 
AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - ??? Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - MARKBNLV Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - ??? Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Tengoshi 
AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - TBear Troop and Military Support - Amber Alert - Bladder Cancer - Endometriosis - Equality - Liver Cancer - Liver Disease - Missing Children - POW/MIA - Spina Bifida - Suicide - TBear Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - TBear Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - TBear Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - TBear 
Send a message via AIM to kaps
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by No1 View Post
lol true. Its a shame though that half the divisions in the ufc arnt even competitive. You have anderson silva at middleweight who no has a chance to beat, gsp at ww and bj penn at lw. It makes all the title fights very boring as you already know who is going to win with a 100% certainty. A.silva will ko maia. gsp will UD hardy and Bj penn with either tko or win a ud against edgar. Its kinda boring.
Agree. I think Penn, GSP, and Silva should all move up one weight class....
Reply With Quote
kaps is offline
#10
Old 03-14-2010, 08:32 PM
TheNegation
No Picks
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Age: 28
Posts: 2,895
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Rep Power: 18 TheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond reputeTheNegation has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 14,101,144,953.93
Bank: 8,175.94
Total Points: 14,101,153,129.87
To a fuckfaced know-nothing - ƒallenloki 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by F l i c k e r View Post

I say Dan Hardy because his stand up technique is second to none in the WW.
LMAO? Really? Dan Hardy's striking has reached new level of overrated. Dana even went so far as to say his striking is perfect. LOL **** right off with that crap.

Dan Hardy's striking is average at best.

Dan Hardy. This is the same guy who hasn't knocked out anyone worth a damn in his career, this is also the same guy who arguably lost to Akihiro Gono. What the hell would GSP do to Gono? Besides kill him?

He has 3 other victories in the UFC. 3 Decisions. 2 of which were split decisions.

Dan Hardy's only way to win this fight with GSP is to come forward throwing bombs and hope one lands. But the thing is Dan Hardy is a Counter Puncher and a ****ty one at that. His punches are telegraphed and you can see his hook coming a mile away. He has power but as far as technical proficiency he's absolutely abysmal. GSP is a better striker than Hardy.

Daley is a strong guy, would have more of a chance at beating GSP but Daley would not be able to stop GSP's shot or survive his onslaught. Nor would Hardy and Koscheck has already failed that test.


Quote:
Originally Posted by F l i c k e r View Post
I'm still waiting for someone to throw the damn knee when GSP shoots in. 90% of the time that is a insta-kayo.
No it's not. Maybe if a guy dives for ankles or shooting in without setting up first, but GSP doesn't do that.

Last edited by TheNegation; 03-14-2010 at 08:35 PM.
Reply With Quote
TheNegation is offline
Reply

Share This With Friends

Tags
beat, ww??

User Tag List

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Cookie Policy - Privacy Policy - Submit News - Feedback - Site Map - Advertise with Us

Copyright © 2003-2016 BoxingScene LLC All rights reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:46 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.