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View Poll Results: Are Bernard Hopkins best wins against SMALLER FIGHTERS?
YES: Hopkins has built a legacy off of smaller fighters 57 69.51%
NO: Hopkins has built his legacy off of bigger fighters 25 30.49%
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Coulda woulda shoulda...........RJJ is like Floyd.
exactly, roy jones lost to most every elite fighter he ever fought. Beat hopkins when they were both green, james toney was his best win, then fought a bunch of bums for years, get's KO'd back to back when he finally steps it up again.
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cuz the poll options are retarded & biased. He fought how many "smaller" guys? Tito and Oscar? Even though Tito was a middleweight champion at the time. Oscar also fought at 160, sure he looked liike **** so he doesn't get too much credit there.

That's it. Pavlik & Calzghe same size as bhop. Glen Johnson, Tarver bigger guys. All middleweights echols, allen, etc etc etc during 160.
What was Tito's record at 160+?? What great goes like 3-3?? Would you call that legit?? Hell No!!

Pavlik and Calzaghe?? Get the **** outta here!!! That is such bull****!!
What is Pavlik?? The MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMP. Didn't Calzaghe GO UP ONE DIVISION to fight Hopkins??
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Pavlik?..fighting a MW @ LHW?...
they fought at 170 (4 pounds north of what pavlik fought taylor at).

And PLEASE don't even try to say pavlik lost because of size, that was all bhop's skill man, you will lose all credibility if you say pavlik lost cuz of size alone. Further they are like twins as far as body type goes:


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In an interview with B-talk...Roy goes in on Hopkins...do you agree?


"He became smarter. Instead of being an aggressive fighter, he became a smarter fighter, I have to give him credit for that. But he learned that from me too. I don't call that improvement I call that a choice. He chose to be smarter fighter instead of fighting the way he was fighting. That's not an improvement, that's a choice."

"His accomplishments are hall of fame accomplishements. The things he did, yeah he did some great things. The fighters he beat late in his career is because he started fighting smart. He didn't take no chances. He beat Glen Johnson, but that wasn't nothing spectacular and he before Glen rose to power. He came back and pulled off a good victory against Tarver and he was very motivated to do those things, because he felt like if they beat Roy and I beat them then my legacy is better than his. He also beat some smaller fighters. He beat De La Hoya, he beat Tito, the only fighter he beat of size is Antonio Tarver. So let's not start making no stupid suggestions, it's not like Bernard Hopkins been whooping the world. Winky Wright was a junior middleweight too. Bernard Hopkins ain't beat no legitimate light heavyweights except Antonio Tarver, so where's all this improvement coming from. He's bigger than all the other guys he beat so where's the damn improvement? Let's be for real about it, the only person he beat was Antonio Tarver, which wasn't that hard to do. It's not like I ain't beat Antonio Tarver once my damn self, when I was dead. What legitimate light heavyweight has beatnen since he became light heavyweight other than Tarver? None! What legitimate middleweight did he beat? Who, besides Kelly Pavlik and he's not really legitimate. He ain't did all that. Where is the improvment? What he has done that is so spectacular besides beat Antonio Tarver? He beat Glen Johnson before he became anything. Hell I beat Eric Lucas after playing a basketball game and then Eric Lucas became the WBC super middleweight champion of the world and held it for a few years. But when I beat him they said he was a nobody. Bernard ain't did a whole lot of nothing, let's keep it real. "
Atleast hopkins never got KOd by Tarver,Johnson and In the 1st round by danny green...and yeah i know after the ruiz fight jones jr dropped 25 Pounds which made him weight drained...
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you don't know how to use boxrec?
how many fighters above MW has he beat other than Tarver?

are his best wins NOT against WW & JMW moving up?
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Coulda woulda shoulda...........RJJ is like Floyd.
does Roy lose to any of those guys in his prime around the time B Hop fought them?
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What was Tito's record at 160+?? What great goes like 3-3?? Would you call that legit?? Hell No!!
Wow, what a way to look at it! Tito retired for 2 years after he got KO'd by hopkins. He was never the same.

If hopkins didn't exist at 160 Trinidad would have been the unified champ. There wasn't a SINGLE fighter at 160 that could have been him at the time.

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Pavlik and Calzaghe?? Get the **** outta here!!! That is such bull****!!
What is Pavlik?? The MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMP. Didn't Calzaghe GO UP ONE DIVISION to fight Hopkins??
See above.

Calzaghe was a natural light heavyweight, he proved this by beating hopkins and jones. He stated for several years it was more and more difficult to make 168 and he planned on going to LH before hopkins was even an option. If you think size was a factor there you're retarded.
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they fought at 170 (4 pounds north of what pavlik fought taylor at).

And PLEASE don't even try to say pavlik lost because of size, that was all bhop's skill man, you will lose all credibility if you say pavlik lost cuz of size alone. Further they are like twins as far as body type goes:


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