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View Poll Results: Are Bernard Hopkins best wins against SMALLER FIGHTERS?
YES: Hopkins has built a legacy off of smaller fighters 57 69.51%
NO: Hopkins has built his legacy off of bigger fighters 25 30.49%
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Old 03-08-2010, 03:11 PM
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Hopkins took massive risks back in the day he wanted to fight Mosley, Vargas and Reid just for your information
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lol...i cracked up when i read that hopkins was calling out mosley...
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HOPKINS: People want to me to go up to 190 pounds to fight "superman" and be basically a sacrificial lamb but these same people will do their best to keep Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley, and Ricardo Mayorga among a few, away from me. Why don't these people want those guys to fight me?

Case in point... I'm going to quote Larry Merchant, who's part of the system and he's nothing more than a puppet on a string, here's what he said... "Why are you calling out the little guys, I never heard of a middleweight calling out the little guys."
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Old 03-08-2010, 03:12 PM
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well... the choice to fight smart is an improvement in itself so rjj already lost the arguement.
Roy is my dude but sometimes he talks a lil' too much...just sometimes!!
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Old 03-08-2010, 03:15 PM
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More false information.
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David Reids people were trying to schedule a fight with Bernard and it could have happened if Reid would have won his last fight. I'm glad it never happened.
http://www.ea$tSideboxing.com/Interview-Fisher.html

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As the 160-pound champion, Hopkins is willing to move down to 157 pounds to fight either De La Hoya or Fernando Vargas, or up to 168 pounds to fight Jones.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/02/sp...ld-you-so.html

The commentators of the Echols Hopkins I fight also talk about Hopkins wanting to fight Vargas
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Where did he say he wanted to fight those fighters? He was making a point. The Delahoya fight was all about money and Hopkins drained himself to 156 pounds for the fight at Delahoya's request. Hopkins did fight Tarver at 175 and Tarver is bigger than Hopkins. So the arguments that he won't fight bigger fighters are absurd.
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What do you call what he did to Pavlik? Didn't look like wrestling to me.

what he did was make another middleweight move up to lightheavy and exploited how slow he was...i'm not impressed....now he does that same thing to somebody like chad dawson, or he likes to call out david haye...he does that to one of those guys, i'm impressed...
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Old 03-08-2010, 03:19 PM
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The commentators of the Echols Hopkins I fight also talk about Hopkins wanting to fight Vargas
Again, where does it say Hopkins was looking for these fights? It doesn't. You're going by what a third party said. Publicly Hopkins called out Roy Jones. When did he ever publicly go after Reid, Mosley or Vargas?
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Old 03-08-2010, 03:20 PM
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Where did he say he wanted to fight those fighters? He was making a point. The Delahoya fight was all about money and Hopkins drained himself to 156 pounds for the fight at Delahoya's request. Hopkins did fight Tarver at 175 and Tarver is bigger than Hopkins. So the arguments that he won't fight bigger fighters are absurd.
Come fight night Hopkins rehydrated back up to 169 lbs, if you watch the fight again you will hear Jim Lampley mention it.

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Well Merchant, why would they want me to fight a heavyweight? What is the problem with me calling out a fighter who's at 154 pounds? What is worse? Me fighting a guy that is 6 pounds away from me or me moving up to fight someone who is 30 pounds heavier than me.
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what he did was make another middleweight move up to lightheavy and exploited how slow he was...i'm not impressed....now he does that same thing to somebody like chad dawson, or he likes to call out david haye...he does that to one of those guys, i'm impressed...
The fight was at 170 and Pavlik is a huge middlweight. Bigger than Hopkins was. And Pavlik called out Hopkins and claimed he would knock him out as most [people thought. After Pavlik lost the "he was too small excuse" is played. Not to mention he's almost 20 years younger. To overlook Hopkins age is just ridiculous.
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Again, where does it say Hopkins was looking for these fights? It doesn't. You're going by what a third party said. Publicly Hopkins called out Roy Jones. When did he ever publicly go after Reid, Mosley or Vargas?
Yes it does. The first interview is with Hopkins himself and the other interview is with his trainer Bouie fisher.
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