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Old 01-27-2010, 04:45 AM
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what are your opinions on John Ruiz, his record at championship level over the last 11yrs is quite outstanding and as good as any champion since Larry Holmes.. Ruiz was caught with the first punch of the fight against David Tua 14yrs ago and KOd in 18 seconds, yet since then it can be argued that John Ruiz has held his own at the very top and has not been convincingly beaten by anyone... Like him or not, you have to give credit to this man for his determination and commitment to the sport, his longevity stands out as that of a very good fighter.
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Old 01-27-2010, 05:14 AM
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He will never get the respect that his record dictates the man has some good wins under his belt he was never undisputed but he has had a damn good run,and i think he will beat Haye.
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Old 01-27-2010, 05:41 AM
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He will never get the respect that his record dictates the man has some good wins under his belt he was never undisputed but he has had a damn good run,and i think he will beat Haye.
i agree in my opinion Ruiz is a great bet to beat David Haye by Knock Out.
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Old 01-27-2010, 06:12 AM
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In all honesty, he was actually one of the better heavyweights of recent no matter how much I and everyone else hates his fights. But I feel that's more due to the state of the division than how good Ruiz is.
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Does anybody realize 4 of Ruiz's losses are by SD and 1 by MD? On top of that two of the SDs and the MD were in Germany and could have aruably gone the other way if fought in the US. Ruiz has been a perrenial titlist or top 10 fighter for over a decade. I doubt he'll ever get there, but Ruiz is HOF worthy in comparison to many who are already in. Very, very underrated fighter. I hope he beats Haye and gets a little respect.
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I really don't like Ruiz but he has my grudging respect for what he has done.
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Ruiz is a solid fighter and has done a bit, but I'm no fan.
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what are your opinions on John Ruiz, his record at championship level over the last 11yrs is quite outstanding and as good as any champion since Larry Holmes.. Ruiz was caught with the first punch of the fight against David Tua 14yrs ago and KOd in 18 seconds, yet since then it can be argued that John Ruiz has held his own at the very top and has not been convincingly beaten by anyone... Like him or not, you have to give credit to this man for his determination and commitment to the sport, his longevity stands out as that of a very good fighter.
He has very effective/ugly way of fighting... good beard as it seems... good conditioned... in today's boxing in many times it is enough to be good conditioned and a good chin to win fights (especially todays Heavyweights)

He held his own against whatever was put in front of him... I think to really determinate how good he was the best names are missing like Lewis or the Klitschko's... but he fought his share of champions and contenders and was never really embarrassed (exception probably Tua)... what hurt him will be that he lost to too guys who came up from MW (even though Toney stayed at Heavy and the decision was changed) I think these guys rank on top skill wise and also legacy wise of guys he has ever fought (exception Holyfield but who has past it) and he lost... so...

He is very constant... on top more or less over a decade... it's not easy to hold your ground like that...

Haye-Ruiz will be interesting... after that we will see if Haye has arrived at Heavy or not... Ruiz will make it a lot harder for him then Valuev
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Ruiz has had his day, as well as a long and hard career..

He'll be 39 by the time they fight, and i'd be astonished if he beats Haye..
I see it going the same way as Adamek Golota, and yes, i am taking into account, Ruiz will be in much better shape than Golota was..
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what are your opinions on John Ruiz, his record at championship level over the last 11yrs is quite outstanding and as good as any champion since Larry Holmes.. Ruiz was caught with the first punch of the fight against David Tua 14yrs ago and KOd in 18 seconds, yet since then it can be argued that John Ruiz has held his own at the very top and has not been convincingly beaten by anyone... Like him or not, you have to give credit to this man for his determination and commitment to the sport, his longevity stands out as that of a very good fighter.
I can't stand the way he fights, but I'm so hoping he puts David Gaye out to pasture.
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