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Old 12-23-2009, 03:28 AM
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HGH leaves the system within 72 hours and Doping at times with 24- 48 hours, it would be no traces or evidence of cheating in some cases after a fight where someone literally dropped about 5-10 pds during the fight.
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:32 AM
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If floyd wants this kinda ****, stay away from this and go compete in the olympics. again.
less than a teaspoon of blood is removed out of an average of 380 teaspoons in the normal human and that it regenerates within an hour of being withdrawn.

so you are opposed to Blood tests that can find things urine tests can't, like the use of human growth hormone, synthetic hemoglobin or blood transfusions, all of which "certainly would aid in an endurance-type event.??????

get off Pac's nuts and be a boxing fan for a minute
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:32 AM
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but, but, Pacquiao is superstitious.
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:34 AM
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floyd says "easy work" but why wasnt marquez tested the same way

simple hes just scared of pacquiao, i cant think of any other reason
Mayweather is willing to prove to the world he is a clean athlete in a time of cheaters.....why are you hating on him for wanting the p4p fighter to do the same?
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:35 AM
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but, but, Pacquiao is superstitious.
true story
he hates needles....

he isnt mentally tough enough to get blood drawn..but he is mentally tough enough to deal with Mayweather in the ring?
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:36 AM
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Travis Tygart, executive director of the USADA, said he had talked to representatives of both fighters about providing testing. Tygart said he welcomed the request as he would for any sport that does not have stringent Olympic-type testing.

"I think every sport that wants to have clean athletes it's a sign of a step forward to have out of competition testing," Tygart said. "It's an essential thing to do if you want to protect the integrity of the sport. Clean athletes want a level playing field."

Tygart noted Olympic athletes are tested often and without notice. He said less than a teaspoon of blood is removed out of an average of 380 teaspoons in the normal human and that it regenerates within an hour of being withdrawn.

Blood tests, he said, can find things urine tests can't, like the use of human growth hormone, synthetic hemoglobin or blood transfusions, all of which "certainly would aid in an endurance-type event."

Ellerbe said he couldn't imagine why Pacquiao wouldn't agree, especially considering both fighters would likely make more than $25 million for the bout.
"Only Manny Pacquiao can answer that question," Ellerbe said. "The ball is in his court."

"If it's good enough for LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Michael Phelps and Lance Armstrong why isn't it good enough for Manny Pacquiao?" Ellerbe asked. "The fans and sports deserve a level playing field."


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how long does it take a test to for roids? weeks? months? days? let me know.
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:36 AM
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that's valuable information
Here's some valuable information for ya.

ATHLETES DON'T BENEFIT FROM HGH WITHOUT USING IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH ANABOLIC STEROIDS
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:43 AM
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A few things...


1) It makes the most sense, to me at least, to do the standard piss test prior to the fight and then the bloodwork immediately afterwards. It really makes no difference, but I can understand Pacquiao not wanting to have blood drawn so close before the fight. It rids both sides of excuses - Floyd's team can't use the "Floyd lost because Manny is on roids" excuse because in-depth testing will have been done, and Pac's team can't use the "Manny lost because he wasn't feeling good after drawing blood" excuse because things will be standard fare prior to the fight.


2) It also makes sense for this to become standard practice. Less noteworthy fighters shouldn't get a pass just because they're not in mega-mega-megafights.



This whole mess of bull**** is 50/50 between Floyd hyping the fight by making sure it's in the news (there was an article on the drug test situation on the front page of Yahoo earlier tonight) and Floyd once again thinking that he's bigger than the sport. This is the biggest fight in ages and of course his camp goes public with some stupid reports that are spun to make it sound like Pacquiao is hiding something, which brings boxing into a negative light. I love the guy as a boxer but his family is a collection of douchebags.
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Old 12-23-2009, 03:43 AM
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I think you need to read your article you posted Punching Bag.

"Today's report, an analysis of 44 previous studies, won't end the debate over the effectiveness of human growth hormone, scientists said. The people who were studied took lower doses of human growth hormone than many athletes, and the longest anyone was studied was 84 days. Also, many professional athletes mix human growth hormone with anabolic steroids, which weren't studied."

There are other things said that this is not conclusive to rule out HGH's effectiveness on its own.

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Old 12-23-2009, 03:44 AM
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and if you keep reading the article.....
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