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Old 12-16-2009, 12:44 PM
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Default Tito's handwraps.. how much does it hurt his legacy?

How much do the wrongly wrapped hands hurt his legacy?

Keep in mind, for those who don't know what I'm talking about, his trainer/father was caught wrapping his hands in an illegal way (at least in New York) that gave him the ability to punch harder.
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How much do the wrongly wrapped hands hurt his legacy?

Keep in mind, for those who don't know what I'm talking about, his trainer/father was caught wrapping his hands in an illegal way (at least in New York) that gave him the ability to punch harder.
No, he will be a HOF'er, period.
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Old 12-16-2009, 02:05 PM
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How much do the wrongly wrapped hands hurt his legacy?

Keep in mind, for those who don't know what I'm talking about, his trainer/father was caught wrapping his hands in an illegal way (at least in New York) that gave him the ability to punch harder.
brother nazim talked about that about 3 months ago and the "harder punches" part isn't true at all

they were against the rules in NY, but try to be objective and well informed when you accuse people of cheating
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Old 12-16-2009, 02:28 PM
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brother nazim talked about that about 3 months ago and the "harder punches" part isn't true at all

they were against the rules in NY, but try to be objective and well informed when you accuse people of cheating
Thanks, but I actually read up on this stuff and don't make up things.. like you just did.

In an interview transcript that I read, Nazim said that Trinidad's hands felt as hard as rock.

Also, it does give him a harder punch. And by harder punch, I'm taking about power. Before his fight with Hopkins started, the Trinidad team were told that his hands needed to be re-wrapped. They made such a big commotion about it, when it really shouldn't have been a big deal.. unless there was something to hide. They even threatened to call the fight off because of it.

Eventually, they agreed and his hands were re-wrapped properly. What happened? It took away all his power and he couldn't even hurt Hopkins with any of his left hooks.
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Thanks, but I actually read up on this stuff and don't make up things.. like you just did.

In an interview transcript that I read, Nazim said that Trinidad's hands felt as hard as rock.

Also, it does give him a harder punch. And by harder punch, I'm taking about power. Before his fight with Hopkins started, the Trinidad team were told that his hands needed to be re-wrapped. They made such a big commotion about it, when it really shouldn't have been a big deal.. unless there was something to hide. They even threatened to call the fight off because of it.

Eventually, they agreed and his hands were re-wrapped properly. What happened? It took away all his power and he couldn't even hurt Hopkins with any of his left hooks.
I doubt he would have hurt him with the wraps. Hopkins wasn't there to be hit, and his jaw is pretty good too. Also, he's the bigger man.

I think Tito's low blows and early 1st retirement hurt his legacy more than anything. Forget the wraps.
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Thanks, but I actually read up on this stuff and don't make up things.. like you just did.

In an interview transcript that I read, Nazim said that Trinidad's hands felt as hard as rock.

Also, it does give him a harder punch. And by harder punch, I'm taking about power. Before his fight with Hopkins started, the Trinidad team were told that his hands needed to be re-wrapped. They made such a big commotion about it, when it really shouldn't have been a big deal.. unless there was something to hide. They even threatened to call the fight off because of it.

Eventually, they agreed and his hands were re-wrapped properly. What happened? It took away all his power and he couldn't even hurt Hopkins with any of his left hooks.
nazim already said that his hands had extra wrapping and tape, not any hard substance. he said that they were legal anywhere except 2 places (NY being one of those 2)

so because he couldn't hurt hopkins, he lost power? have you seen anyone hurt hopkins?

you're basing your posts on assumptions, i'm basing it on nazim's latest interview in ring mag. go figure who's making **** up between you and me

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am a tito fan but it hurt his legacy a little bit
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nazim already said that his hands had extra wrapping and tape, not any hard substance. he said that they were legal anywhere except 2 places (NY being one of those 2)
I know.. what's your point? The point I'm trying to make is that it gave him a lot more power and the question is whether or not that hurts his legacy.

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so because he couldn't hurt hopkins, he lost power? have you seen anyone hurt hopkins?
He was hurt and knocked down twice by Segundo Mercado, in their first fight. Trinidad is a lot better than Mercado.. right?

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you're basing your posts on assumptions, i'm basing it on nazim's latest interview in ring mag. go figure who's making **** up between you and me
What are the assumptions I made? I've only given facts.
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How much do the wrongly wrapped hands hurt his legacy?

Keep in mind, for those who don't know what I'm talking about, his trainer/father was caught wrapping his hands in an illegal way (at least in New York) that gave him the ability to punch harder.
I think you answered your own question. If you feel it necessary to "remind" a boxing fan then it obviously was not that great of a deal. Also Extra Gauze does not make a fighter "punch harder", your strength is your strength. It will do damage and most definitely break your face down but we all seen Tito had One punch power without a doubt.
Also his first loss was to a living legend, a defensive specialist, at a heavier weight.
His legacy is about as tainted as Hoyas when he was ordered to re-wrap.
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He was hurt and knocked down twice by Segundo Mercado, in their first fight. Trinidad is a lot better than Mercado.. right?
You are right but I must point out that the first fight was on Mercado's homeland of Ecuador at a title bout record high elevation. All the fighters that night were sluggish. On the undercard fighters were having trouble even breathing. In the co-feature Michael Nunn and Frankie Liles struggled heavily and it showed.
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