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Old 11-06-2009, 09:12 PM
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This is aimed at the Haye-ters amongst you, and specifically at those who call him a "bum" and regard him as unskilled (also bearing in mind that I'm not a huge fan anymore, myself)...

If Haye were to stop or decision the giant, would that elevate him in your view? Forget his personality and trash-talking for just one moment, because hatred of a fighter's personality only serves to cloud one's judgement.

Now, imagine that he becomes the first man to stop Valuev legitimately (i.e. stool quittage, or clearly out on his feet). Does that not warrant some praise? No...? What about if he knocks him down cleanly? That's surely something even a hater would have to acknowledge as good.

How about if he lasts the distance and manages to get that seemingly elusive decision? Not worthy of any positive words...? What about if he puts on a boxing clinic and makes Valuev look ridiculous like Holyfield did? Oh wait, that'll probably result in "He was **** anyway, Haye's still a bum".

I'm genuinely intrigued here. Haters only (and disregard the Klitschkos for this instance) - what can Haye do in this fight alone to make you give him credit?
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:13 PM
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it will not be valuev's first loss, if haye knocks him out it will be impressive performance
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:25 PM
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Caaaah'm on. I was keen on seeing some views on this.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:26 PM
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Why would he not get credit?
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He needs to knock him out to impress me. Valuev is not that good and he is old as hell and has aged poorly, atleast I think he aged poorly because he looked extremely slow against Holyfield.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:27 PM
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Why would he not get credit?
From what the Haye-ters have written, I can't see how they'd be willing to give him any sort of credit no matter what he does. That's why I'm asking them specifically.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:32 PM
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Of course. Valuev is nothing special but winning his belt would still be a fine accomplishment for David. He is outsized and is known for power at CW. To beat a big guy like Valuev does make a statement, even though I do not like Haye.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:34 PM
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Haye will get credit no doubt. he beats him on points in germany. how many fighters do that these days.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:54 PM
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I most certainly will, Hardcore Klitschko fans will not, but Haye is at a style disadvantage and will have to fight well, in a manner he is not used to, to defeat big Nikolay
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:58 PM
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I most certainly will, Hardcore Klitschko fans will not
Crazy as though it may sound, it's their opinion in which I'm the most interested here. :wnk1:
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