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Old 11-01-2009, 01:33 PM
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BOXING HISTORY 101: Why Precedence Matters !!! (Readers only thread)

Shout outs to Allucard, great post to inspire me to write this thread.

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Some act as if what Floyd is doing isn't what EVERYONE else also does.

Take Calzaghe, fought 2 40 year olds back to back. Wanted a 3rd one but then Chad Dawson came up and he just retired.

Takes Hopkins, fought smaller men his whole career, considered an ATG.

Take Oscar de la Hoya, fought old Chavez, on the slide Pernell (some say he lost that one yet no rematches) and made Floyd!!! come up from 147 to 154 for the first time, fit him with big ass gloves so he had no power wts and chose the ring size for him too. I recall you Floyd was being denoted "a little shrimp" in the weigh in compared to then Ring and lineal champ and not dehydrated Oscar.

Take Hatton for instance, fought in Europe all his life, had he not come to the US to face two 1# p4p fighters he would have been considered an ATG for sure, at least for some people.

My point is, Floyd didn't make this game he just plays it. And he's good at it too. The "rapper" is just a big dumbass when he tries to compare the old timers with modern fighters like Floyd ignoring completely that a fight today needs huge amounts of promotion to sell and that on itself takes 6 months in the case of a big fight, injuries and other set backs apart!!!
Can't compare Robbinson's +100 fights with Floyd's 40.

Let me tell you, for each complaint there is about Floyd not fighting this or that cat, there's an equally (or bigger) big case had he not fought the ones he did: Diego Corrales, p4p champion, Hatton undefeated 43-0 champion who's a pressure fighter, the perfect recipe to beat Floyd, Oscar de La Hoya, the ring champion at 154, "experts" made articles claiming Oscar would win and detailed why. The world awaits, anyone? What "the world" really awaited is the same thing the "rapper" awaits, Floyd's downfall. If Floyd had fought Margarito and Cotto already he'd have missed Hatton (who would still be undefeated waiting for the big payday) and Hoya and the haters would still be complaining.

Haters will be haters. And that guy really makes me sick with that BS. He's a snake and Floyd spotted him right off the high grass.

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Great Post,
These so called hardcore boxing fans are so hardcore that they donít know any HARDCORE boxing history...

They act is if Floyd Mayweather is setting precedence never seen before in boxing. They act is if Sugar Ray Robinson WAS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE ON HOW A FIGHTER SHOULD BE AND wasnít the Biggest ******* in the sport when it comes to money... The guy would pull out of fights on fight night just to change to already agreed upon money split....

Imagine if Mayweather did that with somebody today...On the night of the fight, He says he isnít going to fight unless he now gets 65% instead of the 60% he already agreed on....Could you picture the reaction????

* People forget or dont know, that Sugar Ray Leonard never fought Pryor, when Pryor called him out in his face!!!

* People forget or dont know, that SRL made Hagler wait 8 years before he would fight him...

* People forget or dont know Haglar was NORTOROIUS for calling out a smaller man and making them come up to his weightclass to fight him.

Haglar was infamous from calling out welterweights and former lightweights.
(hearns,SRL,Duran) Sounds like a fighter we know today: (Hopkins)

* People forget or dont know that Michael Spinks used to called Haglar out for years but Haglar pretended that Spinks didnt exist. Why didnt Haglar fight Spinks the biggerman instead of always making smaller men moved up and fight him.
Haglar always fought the Smallerman... But is his legacy tarnish?????



* People Forget, that Roberto Duran just quit against SRL, because he could not take SRL style anymore...Picture what would happen if Mayweather quit a fight against somebody because their style was too hard for them to handle...

People act is if the past in boxing was some kind of holy time.
No fighter in history has fought everyone. NO FIGHTER!!!
Especially in their 4th weightclass. !!!

Jack Dempsey never fought any black fighters, Sound familiar???

If people actually learn some boxing history, they would not act as if Floyd is breaking every secret boxing rule in the book every time Floyd makes a decision.


This is why I dont take half of these clowns seriously.
Because they dont know any history, and complain about ****
that some of their greatest fighters in history used to do all the the time.
But when Mayweather does it, They act as if SRR,SRL,HAGLAR,DURAN,etc...
would never have never done that..!!!

boxing is the only sport in which contradictions are allowed to happen and the ignorant lead the ignorant.!

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Old 11-01-2009, 01:36 PM
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Mayweather is back, he should fight the winner of Pacquaio/Cotto and he could retire without any problems since he has had a great legacy

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Mayweather is back, he should fight the winner of Pacquaio/Cotto and he could retire without any problems since he has had a great legacy

Haters hate...
The problem is, they hate out of ignorance...
That is the biggest problem real boxing fans have with these dudes.

I dont have a problem with criticizing Mayweather, the problem I have is when you do it out of ignorance and act is if nobody in history especially the great fighters in history would have never done some of the same things Mayweather is doing now...
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Let me put this into context for some of you guys...


For those of you who say that Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Marvin Haglar, or any Past of the greats in history would never do some of the things Mayweather has done... You guys need to wake the **** up learn some ****..

For those who think,
Sugar Ray Robinson: WAS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE ON HOW A FIGHTER SHOULD BE AND wasnít the Biggest ******* in the sport when it comes to money... The guy would pull out of fights on fight night just to change to already agreed upon money split....

Imagine if Mayweather did that with somebody today...On the night of the fight, He says he isnít going to fight unless he now gets 65% instead of the 60% he already agreed on....Could you picture the reaction????


Quick History Run Down:

*People forget or dont know, that Sugar Ray Leonard never fought Pryor, when Pryor called him out in his face!!!

context: For those of you who argue, that Mosley called out Mayweather to his face.

*People forget or dont know, that SRL made Hagler wait 8 years before he would fight him...

context: For those who argue why make Mosley or any fighter wait to fight Floyd

* People forget or dont know Haglar was NORTOROIUS for calling out a smaller man and making them come up to his weightclass to fight him.

context: For those who argue, that Mayweather is always bringing up smaller fighters from other weightclasses to fight him.

Marvin Haglar:

Haglar was infamous from calling out welterweights and former lightweights.
(hearns,SRL,Duran) Sounds like a fighter we know today: (Hopkins)


*
People forget or dont know that Michael Spinks used to called Haglar out for years but Haglar pretended that Spinks didnt exist. Why didnt Haglar fight Spinks the biggerman instead of always making smaller men moved up and fight him.

Haglar always fought the Smallerman... But is his legacy tarnish?????


Roberto Duran

* People Forget, that Roberto Duran just quit against SRL, because he could not take SRL style anymore...

context:
Picture what would happen if Mayweather quit a fight against somebody because their style was too hard for them to handle...


Why Precendence Matters:

People act is if the past in boxing was some kind of holy time.
No fighter in history has fought everyone. NO FIGHTER!!!
Especially in their 4th weightclass. !!!


Jack Dempsey never fought any black fighters, Sound familiar???(pacquiao)
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BOXING HISTORY 101: Why Precedence Matters !!! (Readers only thread)

Shout outs to Allucard, great post to inspire me to write this thread.




BOXING HISTORY 101: Why Precedence Matters !!! (Readers only thread)




Great Post,
These so called hardcore boxing fans are so hardcore that they donít know any HARDCORE boxing history...

They act is if Floyd Mayweather is setting precedence never seen before in boxing. They act is if Sugar Ray Robinson WAS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE ON HOW A FIGHTER SHOULD BE AND wasnít the Biggest ******* in the sport when it comes to money... The guy would pull out of fights on fight night just to change to already agreed upon money split....

Imagine if Mayweather did that with somebody today...On the night of the fight, He says he isnít going to fight unless he now gets 65% instead of the 60% he already agreed on....Could you picture the reaction????

* People forget or dont know, that Sugar Ray Leonard never fought Pryor, when Pryor called him out in his face!!!

* People forget or dont know, that SRL made Hagler wait 8 years before he would fight him...

* People forget or dont know Haglar was NORTOROIUS for calling out a smaller man and making them come up to his weightclass to fight him.

Haglar was infamous from calling out welterweights and former lightweights.
(hearns,SRL,Duran) Sounds like a fighter we know today: (Hopkins)

* People forget or dont know that Michael Spinks used to called Haglar out for years but Haglar pretended that Spinks didnt exist. Why didnt Haglar fight Spinks the biggerman instead of always making smaller men moved up and fight him.
Haglar always fought the Smallerman... But is his legacy tarnish?????



* People Forget, that Roberto Duran just quit against SRL, because he could not take SRL style anymore...Picture what would happen if Mayweather quit a fight against somebody because their style was too hard for them to handle...

People act is if the past in boxing was some kind of holy time.
No fighter in history has fought everyone. NO FIGHTER!!!
Especially in their 4th weightclass. !!!

Jack Dempsey never fought any black fighters, Sound familiar???

If people actually learn some boxing history, they would not act as if Floyd is breaking every secret boxing rule in the book every time Floyd makes a decision.


This is why I dont take half of these clowns seriously.
Because they dont know any history, and complain about ****
that some of their greatest fighters in history used to do all the the time.
But when Mayweather does it, They act as if SRR,SRL,HAGLAR,DURAN,etc...
would never have never done that..!!!

boxing is the only sport in which contradictions are allowed to happen and the ignorant lead the ignorant.!

good drop my dude.....Hagler ducked Mike McCallum also!!

on the flipside.....dudes like Joe Louis, Lennox Lewis, Joe Frazier, and many many more ATG's took on ALL COMERS!!
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