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Old 10-12-2009, 05:36 PM
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yeah but the facts tell nothing. Nothing. It's a list of lineal champs - which is almost as bs as belts since all the lineal champ has to do is avoid the good fighters in the division then move elsewhere. How valid is that reign?
but you had to fight the top champ to become the top champ right??
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Old 10-12-2009, 05:36 PM
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Old 10-12-2009, 05:37 PM
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but you had to fight the top champ to become the top champ right??
No. If I have the belt and I know you're very good, avoid you for years, then someone else beats me, avoids you for years, etc etc. How seriously do you take that lineal crown? It's happened for ages.
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Floyd - 3 fights in 20 months.

Leonard - 8 fights in 32 months.

Yep,I get it. Floyd aint fit to carry Sugar Ray's spit bucket.
Yeah this list really means little to nothing. Pavlik just keeps adding up the number of months he's been the lineal middleweight champ. Doesn't really mean anything. He's still not fighting anyone, or even fighting often. According to the list I guess Cory Spinks is about as great as Mayweather. Less months as champ but more defenses. Cory Spink ATG welterweight.

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Old 10-12-2009, 05:38 PM
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it doesnt alter the facts!
um yes it does..what did leonard do in his 4th division....compare floyds 1st division to leonards 1st division if you're gonna compare the 2
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LINEAGE OF THE OFFICAL WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION
FROM 1979-2009
  1. Wilfred Benitez January 14, 1979 - November 30, 1979
  2. Sugar Ray Leonard November 30, 1979 - June 20, 1980
  3. Roberto Duran June 20, 1980 - November 25, 1980
  4. Sugar Ray Leonard November 25, 1980 - November 9, 1982 (Retired)
  5. Donald Curry (defeated Milton McCrory) December 6, 1985 - September 27, 1986
  6. Lloyd Honeyghan September 27, 1986 - October 27, 1987
  7. Jorge Vaca October 27, 1987 - March 29, 1988
  8. Lloyd Honeyghan March 29, 1988 - February 4, 1989
  9. Marlon Starling February 4, 1989 - March 2, 1989 (Ring ceased publication for 7 months)
  10. Vernon Forrest January 26, 2002 - January 25, 2003
  11. Ricardo Mayorga January 25, 2003 - December 13, 2003
  12. Cory Spinks December 13, 2003 - February 5, 2005
  13. Zab Judah February 5, 2005 - January 7, 2006
  14. Carlos Manuel Baldomir January 7, 2006 - November 4 , 2006
  15. Floyd Mayweather Jr. November 4,2006 - June 18, 2008(Retired)



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Old 10-12-2009, 05:39 PM
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I agree tho..anyone can add time by not fighting..look at pavlik
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um yes it does..what did leonard do in his 4th division....compare floyds 1st division to leonards 1st division if you're gonna compare the 2
Leonard still wins by a lot.

Anyway, the list is pointless. When you think of all the great welters in recent years (Margarito, Quartey, TRINIDAD, etc.) and then see this list you just have to snicker.
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Curry lost to Honeyghan, who lost to Starling, who lost to Blocker, who lost to Brown (also a unification bout), who lost to McGirt, who lost to Whitaker, who lost to De La Hoya.

Whitaker's defenses= Chavez, Cardona, McGirt, Jacobs, Rodriguez, Rivera (2x), and Hurtado.

De La Hoya's defenses= Kamau, Camacho, Rivera, Charpentier, Chavez, Quartey, Carr.
True. I had forgotten about the lineage continuing beyond Honeyghan and Marlon Starling.
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