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Old 10-09-2009, 01:18 PM
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The right to bear arms in the United States. Here we can legally purchase and own guns.

I thought the right to bear arms was made so that citizens could become part of a militia to defend the country from an invader and not to shoot someone trying to invade your home.

Help clarify this for me
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:19 PM
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The right to bear arms in the United States. Here we can legally purchase and own guns.

I thought the right to bear arms was made so that citizens could become part of a militia to defend the country from an invader and not to shoot someone trying to invade your home.

Help clarify this for me
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:20 PM
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It was intended originally to give citizens the right to form militias against the government to defend them against future tyranny. Tyranny that the British imposed upon the American settlers. You know, by stopping them from invading Indian land, keeping slaves and requesting sufficient taxation to cover the cost of defending the settlements against natives and the French. Those tyrants!
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:24 PM
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The right to bear arms in the United States. Here we can legally purchase and own guns.

I thought the right to bear arms was made so that citizens could become part of a militia to defend the country from an invader and not to shoot someone trying to invade your home.

Help clarify this for me
the 2nd amendment was created to ensure that the militias can be formed when need be and armed.

if you look at u.s. military history , up until the civil war , the u.s. had a very small military.

after the civil war the military was again downsized until ww1.

the state militias formed the bulk of our defense for the most part until the 20th century.



what the forefathers intended was a militia system similar to switzerland's canton militias.
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It was intended originally to give citizens the right to form militias against the government to defend them against future tyranny. Tyranny that the British imposed upon the American settlers. You know, by stopping them from invading Indian land, keeping slaves and requesting sufficient taxation to cover the cost of defending the settlements against natives and the French. Those tyrants!
no taxation without representation , you royalist bastard!




(although the colonists were taxed far , far less than the brits in britain. )
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:29 PM
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no taxation without representation , you royalist bastard!




(although the colonists were taxed far , far less than the brits in britain. )
And far far less than they are taxed today!
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It was intended originally to give citizens the right to form militias against the government to defend them against future tyranny. Tyranny that the British imposed upon the American settlers. You know, by stopping them from invading Indian land, keeping slaves and requesting sufficient taxation to cover the cost of defending the settlements against natives and the French. Those tyrants!
Oh please, you righteous bastard.
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It was intended originally to give citizens the right to form militias against the government to defend them against future tyranny. Tyranny that the British imposed upon the American settlers. You know, by stopping them from invading Indian land, keeping slaves and requesting sufficient taxation to cover the cost of defending the settlements against natives and the French. Those tyrants!
The Constitution was created on September 17, 1787. Ratified on June 21, 1788. On March 4, 1789, the Government began operations.

The problem with your comment on slavery is that slave trade within the British Empire was not abolished until 1807, with the Slave Trade Act.

When the 2nd Amendment was written and enacted, Britain was still profiting from selling us slaves.

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so technically we are only suppose to have guns to fight an invading army or group that is trying to rebel right?

Founding father's didnt intend for us to go to the club strapped ?
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so technically we are only suppose to have guns to fight an invading army or group that is trying to rebel right?

Founding father's didnt intend for us to go to the club strapped ?
why would you need a strap in a club , plaxico?
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