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Old 05-16-2012, 04:55 PM
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cleto_reyes, why did you bump this old one instead of the newer one you made?

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=538226

my list is already in there, which was made not too long ago. i'll try and update it at the end of the month if it needs updating.
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:59 PM
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But, it's not though.
it is though......
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:21 PM
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it is though......
It isn't though.

Unless you just watch fighters that come out on HBO and Showtime don't really follow the sport you would have that belief.

From the original definition of P4P, or resume, he belongs way higher than what most have him in.
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:31 PM
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It isn't though.

Unless you just watch fighters that come out on HBO and Showtime don't really follow the sport you would have that belief.

From the original definition of P4P, or resume, he belongs way higher than what most have him in.
he has beat mediocre fighters besides vic and doesn't belong in top 5 at all

marquez,martinez,cotto,gamboa, etc are all miles ahead
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:36 PM
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he has beat mediocre fighters besides vic and doesn't belong in top 5 at all

marquez,martinez,cotto,gamboa, etc are all miles ahead
Miles ahead? Actually do yourself a favor and follow the sport as a whole. Not just the fighters you see on HBO and Showtime.
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:41 PM
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Miles ahead? Actually do yourself a favor and follow the sport as a whole. Not just the fighters you see on HBO and Showtime.
sorry if i don't follow every obscure fighter fighting other obscure fighters like moreno fighting the likes of Volodymyr Sydorenko
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:45 PM
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sorry if i don't follow every obscure fighter fighting other obscure fighters like moreno fighting the likes of Volodymyr Sydorenko
Don't be sorry. Just don't comment on something you have no clue about. When your knowledge of the sport just ranges from HBO-Showtime and boxrec.

And, you won't sound ignorant to the subject.
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Old 05-16-2012, 06:32 PM
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cuz he's resume is weak as sh1t
Moreno's resume isn't weak. Especially considering his age.

But I definitely wouldn't put it against Marquez,Martinez, Cotto, or even Gamboa or Mares. You can actually argue even putting Salido in front of Moreno resume wise, but that's not the only thing I take into consideration when creating a p4p list. Truth be told, Sergio isn't up there based on his resume.

To each his own. Im expecting Anselmo to surpass a lot of these dudes in the next 2-3 years. Especially moving up to 122. It doesn't take much "obscure" research to know he's an elite fighter who will be dominating at an elite level for a very long time. But as of right now, that's an emotional observation more so than at it is one based on facts. Right now, Moreno isn't top 5 p4p.
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:04 PM
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Don't be sorry. Just don't comment on something you have no clue about. When your knowledge of the sport just ranges from HBO-Showtime and boxrec.

And, you won't sound ignorant to the subject.
no one really watches those obscure fights but you man
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:43 PM
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My new list
1. Juan Manuel Marquez
2. Sergio MArtinez
3. Miguel Cotto
4. Abner Mares
5. Canelo Alvarez
6. Anselmo Moreno
7. Julio Caser Chavez jr.
8. Roman Gonzalez
9. Orlando Salido
10. Yiurorkis Gamboa
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