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I've already read a few times in this thread where posters have said "Im sure he fought 10 or 20 tomato cans before fighting a good fighter". That is a joke. People who don't know about his competition should either not post about him, or they should expect their opinions to be ridiculed. Im no boxing historian, but I've read enough about him and his comtemporaries, and have seen enough of his fights to know that any conversation on this subject that doesn't include him is a joke. |
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i also have ray robinson 1#. but boxing historians definitely have a incredible bias for oldschool boxers. Every single athletic sport had their greatest player continuously come in modern times.
Yet only boxing is immune to this athletic & physical evolution according to the old school farts & that its hearsay to even consider a modern fighter better or even being competitive vs old school greats. The bert sugars of the world love to say competition was sooo great during the old times, less divisions, more fights blah blah. Just looking at ray robinson's record before his 1st & 2nd losses, you see him face guys with records of; 3-15 1-14 67-36 41-53 4-6 0-0 13-17 47-19 39-39 74-27 20-29 15-11 25-24 111-26 46-26 (Jannazzo) 30-19 45-18 6-23 (jean wanes) 22-22 29-21 86-13(luc van dam (jean claude van dam's great grandfather )53-29 15-15 24-24 I can go on. i think u get the point. can u imagine a modern superstar fighting someone who was 6-23 after he was established? pac & fraud jr. get crap for fighting david diaz & baldomir. Its not so golden back then. yet old timers are so blind & biased of the fact & modern & current greats get the short end of the stick. i know duran, leondar, & hearns would never lose some plodder like jake lamotta. |
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