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Old 07-21-2009, 11:13 PM
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Its laughable really, all you old timers in here. Most of you put Lewis in the top 10 ATG at heavbyweight, but everyone of you votes against him in head to head against anyone decent at heavyweight.

Tyson, Holy, Spinks, Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Liston, Louis, Marciano, Dempsey, Holmes, riddick bowe, joe walcott, jack johnson, anyone else you care to think of. Anytime Lewis goes up against one of these guys all i see is "lewis was overrated" "lewis was glassed jawed"

so who in your opinion would he actually beat!
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:49 PM
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Tommy morrison, ray mercer, shannon briggs, evander holyfeild,and an old tyson.

Personally im not sure where i rate lennox probaly around 25
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:54 PM
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25!

your rating him a bit too highly my old friend, i cant see a place for him in the top 100!
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Old 07-22-2009, 12:07 AM
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I was just talking about heavy weights but of all time and classes i would probably put him up around the 70's right next to peter mcneely
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:04 AM
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Im not an Old Timer.... im in my 20s, just because we know our history doesnt mean we are all 90 years old lol.


I rate Lennox Highly, and would Give him a great chance to beat Most of the old Greats you mentioned.

There may be a few that dont rate Lennox very high, and dont give him credit in fantasy matchups, But that is the same when you mention Marciano with the Modern fans. Most Modern fans underate Marciano and give him little chance against todays fights.

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Old 07-22-2009, 01:09 AM
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25!

your rating him a bit too highly my old friend, i cant see a place for him in the top 100!
I'm afraid he's baiting you old chap. Most historians worth their salt have Lennox in their top 10 ATG HW list, and in head to head matchups surely makes top 5. In spite of his two KO losses, which he avenged, he was very hard to hit, possessed an excellent jab, and took some hard punches from some pretty big hitters, like Vitali, Tyson, Rahman, Tua, Briggs, Bruno, Ruddock, etc. Plus he had the power in either hand to put you away if you left yourself open going for his chin.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:21 AM
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I haven't made a true list so I couldn't tell you exactly where I would place Lennox but I do know if I were to start making a top 10 list right now in no particular order, Lewis would be a top 10 HW.

For Fantasy Matchups: hard to say how many could really beat him at his best. I guess I could favor just a handful of fighters beating him but I could always see it going in Lewis's favor as well.

And NO, he didn't have a "Glass Chin." It wasn't a legendary chin like Chuvalo gets credit for but it wasn't Glass. He was knocked out twice by two Big HWs that each threw/connected with a bomb on his chin.


I'm not sure about Fantasy Matchups but Lewis is the type of fighter you could at least see winning as well so if anything, it would be more like a 55/45...maybe 60/40 tops, in someone else's favor if I wanted to favor someone else.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:32 AM
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I dont mind people picking other fighters, its just that often he is given no chance and i think even a bum has a chance you know!
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I dont mind people picking other fighters, its just that often he is given no chance and i think even a bum has a chance you know!
Just laugh.

I actually want to see an updated list from some of the noted Sports-Writers to see where they have him listed. But in the end, it is up for the fan to do their own research and come to their own conclusion.

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I dont mind people picking other fighters, its just that often he is given no chance and i think even a bum has a chance you know!
I don't think I've seen any respected poster not give Lewis a chance against any other great in a head to head match up. Personaly I would pick Holmes and Ali over him, and give Louis, Liston, Foreman and Jack Johnson a favorable shot. Other than that I don't really think any other heavyweight in history beats him.
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