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Old 06-11-2009, 04:47 AM
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Wlad has Knocked out more opponents in heavyweight world titles (200+ lbs) than Joe Louis, Foreman, Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson or Rocky Marciano.

He has a higher KO ratio than Mike Tyson.

He has also won more world title fights than Evander Holyfield.

Is one of the heavies (with 50+ fights) with the least unavenged losses ever.
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Old 06-11-2009, 05:02 AM
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But his best win is Chris Byrd and he was KOed 3 times...

Numerically an ATG Heavyweight, substance wise no. But there's still time for him to earn making the top 30.
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Old 06-11-2009, 05:28 AM
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lol I think that he has done all he can in this era, but was fighting inferior opponents to those of foreman, louis etc. i dont think samuel peter or sultan ibragimov can be compared to max schmelig or frazier.
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:23 PM
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he beat alltime greats like sultan ibragimov and ray austin so yes......
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Old 06-12-2009, 03:21 AM
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He'll most likely win the rest of his fights fairly easily. I don't see him staying around and fighting past his prime. There really are any good fighters out there for him to beat to solidify himself as one of the greats. If Haye could beat Vitali and then Wlad beat Haye, that's a great win for the resume. A Valuev win does some good, but not much in terms of history.
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Old 06-28-2009, 01:12 AM
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He's already top 20 IMO. H2H he's deceptively good, especially now that his jab is can ****ing poleaxe grown men. He likes to string guys along too much but he's probably the most formidable giant boxer in history and his fighting skills are underrated. His jab and cross are better than Lennox's, and he's great at controlling distance. His power is immense and he also has a great left hook. If he fought as he does now and mixed it up a bit as he did earlier in his career, he'd definitely be a top 20 guy h2h.
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:33 AM
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if you look at the plain numbers(which mean nothing), yes he is greater than evander and those guys

but look at his level of comp, and who his best wins are over

then you will see the truth
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:45 AM
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I think so. People always critize his resume, But he has fought the same level of opposition as Joe louis, Tyson, And Holmes. His fighting style is his biggest negative if you ask me. He Ko's pretty much all of his opponents, But he is just not fun to watch like Tyson was. when his career ends he'll defiently be a top 20 HW. Possibly top 15 or even 10.
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Old 06-28-2009, 03:36 AM
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I think so. People always critize his resume, But he has fought the same level of opposition as Joe louis, Tyson, And Holmes. His fighting style is his biggest negative if you ask me. He Ko's pretty much all of his opponents, But he is just not fun to watch like Tyson was. when his career ends he'll defiently be a top 20 HW. Possibly top 15 or even 10.
Fought the same level of competition as Joe Louis? That's not true at all.

Louis beat Baer, Carnera, Schmeling, Braddock, Conn (x2), Walcott (x2), Lewis, Galento, Levinsky, Farr, Uzcudun, Sharkey, Bivins.. the guys competition isn't slightly superior, it's FAR superior to the guys that Wlad faced. It isn't even close.

Both Holmes & Tyson beat superior opposition as well.
Holmes defeated; Norton, Shavers (x2), Weaver, Ali, Berbick, L. Spinks, Cooney, Cobb, Witherspoon, Snipes, Williams, Smith & Mercer.. he lost only to Spinks & Tyson in which both times he was past his prime for the Spinks fight and 2 years of inactivity as well as being past prime for Tyson. Aside from that he remained a good Heavyweight after that beating the undefeated Mercer and losing a very respectable decision to a prime and undefeated Evander Holyfield. It isn't even close!

Tyson beat Spinks, Williams, Thomas, Tucker, Smith, Biggs, Holmes, Ratliff, Bruno (x2), Tillman, Stewart, Ruddock (x2), Seldon, Golota, Nielsen, Tillis, Green..

Wladimir Klitschko has beaten more or less the top heavyweights of this particular era, but his era is unfortunately among the worst (if not the worst) heavyweight eras in living memory.
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Old 06-28-2009, 04:15 AM
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Wlad would have very little trouble in taking care of Lennox Lewis, Wlad would have a field day with the Canadian and i think he would put Lewis to sleep around the 4th round with a big right-hand bomb
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