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  • OnePunch
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    $30 million??? LMAO

    Ok folks, time for "Boxing Economics 101". Let me just say that there is "NO WAY" that the Mayweather-JMM fight is going to generate that kind of GUARANTEED money. To understand this though, you need a basic understanding of PPV revenue. Lets just say for arguements sake the fight does 750k buys, at $50. Thats a TOTAL GROSS REVENUE of $37.5 million. Now here's what happens.......

    MINUS approx. 40% to the cable distributors leaves $22.5 million

    MINUS approx 10% of the gross to HBO PPV for production leaves $18.75 million.

    PLUS lets say it does either $5-6 million at the gate, or they play it safe and take a site fee for $3-4 million. (they dont get both)

    Lets say that the gate puts the total net back up to around $22 million

    The overseas rights money would probably offset all the other promotion expenses (undercard, travel, advertising, insurance, commission/officials fees, etc.), so thats probably a break even. (neither fighter has a strong, proven, overseas PAYING audience)

    So, assuming there are 750k domestic buys, there is a total of approx. $22 million in revenue, and that also has to feed the promoters.

    The point is that if the story about $30 million in purses being GUARANTEED were true, that would mean the following: As the LEAD promoter, Mayweather promotions would be responsible for these guarantees. Does anyone really believe that Floyd would essentially be giving JMM a 50-50 split for anything up to 750k buys? If you believe that, then I have a bridge to sell you.........

    p.s. yes, I know there are other revenue streams that will generate some additional monies (HBO buying the rebroadcast rights, sponsor money, etc.) but they dont add up to enough to really change these figures by much. At best maybe a million or 2.


    Summary: If JMM got a $10 million guarantee, then his management is absolutely brilliant, because it would mean that if the show did anything under 750k buys, then JMM would be making more money than Floyd.
    Last edited by OnePunch; 05-10-2009, 01:14 PM.
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    i don't even think pac-floyd would make $30 million purse for both.

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    • MANGLER
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      #3
      No way there's that much $ involved.

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      • xcaret
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        if you know so much about promoting and ppv **** then why arent you up there with GBP and Top Rank? *** outta here, they'll buy your company with their chump change.

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        • ..WaRSpencE..
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          What I'm wondering is..why just 3 mths ago when SSM called out Mayweather he said he won't come back unless they put 20 mill on the table...

          and I KNOW DAMN WELL...JMM-Mayweather ain't generating 20mill let alone only for Mayweather..he's a disappointment for real!..

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            Originally posted by xcaret
            if you know so much about promoting and ppv **** then why arent you up there with GBP and Top Rank? *** outta here, they'll buy your company with their chump change.
            pacquiao vs. ortiz at 140.

            xcaret , who you got?

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            • K-Nan
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              Good breakdown.

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              • OnePunch
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                Originally posted by .::WaRCoTTo::.
                What I'm wondering is..why just 3 mths ago when SSM called out Mayweather he said he won't come back unless they put 20 mill on the table...

                and I KNOW DAMN WELL...JMM-Mayweather ain't generating 20mill let alone only for Mayweather..he's a disappointment for real!..

                well technically Floyd COULD make $20 million or more if the show does EXTREMELY well. If I had to guess, I would suspect that JMM got between a $2-$3 million guarantee, with a PPV upside that kicks in somewhere above 500-600k buys. With that kind of split, if the show did north of 800k buys, Floyd could very well make more than $20 million in the end. But Shane would never have gone for a split like that. Floyd's $20 million to Shane's $5 million?? not likely.........

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                  I take it most fighters know these figures so when they bargain for a fight with outrageous money demands, it's the same thing as saying "No thanks".


                  I often think a lot of posters don't know where the money actually comes from (hint: not them watching streams), so they don't have a realistic view of what's possible.

                  Nice post, OnePunch.

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                  • OnePunch
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                    Originally posted by jreckoning
                    I take it most fighters know these figures so when they bargain for a fight with outrageous money demands, it's the same thing as saying "No thanks".


                    I often think a lot of posters don't know where the money actually comes from (hint: not them watching streams), so they don't have a realistic view of what's possible.

                    Nice post, OnePunch.
                    You are absolutely correct. Floyd saying "I want a $20 million guarantee to fight Shane" actually means one of the following 2 things (or both)

                    1. It means Floyd doesnt want to fight Shane

                    2. It means Floyd needed to fight someone who will take a much lower split


                    And your line about streams cracked me up. So often you see somebody posting something like "my boy Money May makes ALL the cash", which is usually followed by them asking someone to "pm me a link please" haha
                    Last edited by OnePunch; 05-10-2009, 01:36 PM.

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