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View Poll Results: what say you fairminded boxing fans?
yes..................... 50 43.10%
no....................... 36 31.03%
its all negotiation tactics...................... 30 25.86%
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:14 AM
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There are divisions for a reason, and its not to keep the fighters warm.
I know why divisions are in place , you tell why you think they are ? I believe you dont understand weight and what it means to a fighter .
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:15 AM
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http://www.topix.com/world/puerto-ri...ws-tv-19-04-09


Theres one example, shall I provide another?
http://sports.inquirer.net/breakingn...acquiao-Hatton
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He came up all the way from 106 to 140 and he's a *****.
If you dont wanna come down a 5 pounds to meet him, what does that make you?
If they cant make 142, **** it. MP can fight JMM at 140.
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:16 AM
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And Asking Cotto to move to 142 will be stupid as **** Cotto already agreed on 145!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No he didn't dude, he mentioned ages ago that he would be prepared to go to 45, but nothing was ever agreed upon.

Manny and Roach are not *****es, they are smart. These guys (Cotto, Shane, FLoyd, etc) wanna fight him, so it's up to them to come down. We can't expect Manny to be fighting people who enter the ring as middleweights, it's ****ing ludicrous. Get real. Yeah, he took a one-off risk with Oscar for a HUGE payday. Manny didn't know he wouldn't enter the ring at 154+.
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:17 AM
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i say yes .........144-146 is acceptable......but roach is way over his head this time..............
146 is completely pointless. Might as well be 147.
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:17 AM
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Thus will be My Answer to you. Cotto has never weighted 160 for any fight.

He already Fought a Guy who weight 153 at Fight night(Hatton) And he fought already at WW and did good.

Cotto Ave Fight night Weight is 155!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now tryng to get people to unhealthy weight is fair?????????
I agree. He is not closing the door on Cotto. Cotto can make 143-144 and they would allow more weight negotiation for Cotto as he is not too large. What they are doing is eliminating the larger welters from the equation right now. There will be room for Cotto and Floyd to negotiate as they are not huge compared to Manny. larger yes, but they don't tower over him.
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No he didn't dude, he mentioned ages ago that he would be prepared to go to 45, but nothing was ever agreed upon.

Manny and Roach are not *****es, they are smart. These guys (Cotto, Shane, FLoyd, etc) wanna fight him, so it's up to them to come down. We can't expect Manny to be fighting people who enter the ring as middleweights, it's ****ing ludicrous. Get real. Yeah, he took a one-off risk with Oscar for a HUGE payday. Manny didn't know he wouldn't enter the ring at 154+.
Trying to get any of teh WWs below 144 is a ***** move and Cotto already said he will go as low as 145, so thats pretty much agreeing with it!!!!!!!!!

Pac already fought at 147 he did good, so theres should be no excuses!!!!!!!!!!1
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142 or go home. Manny calls the shots against all of them, and negotiates with PBF.
Exactly. None of these other guys are in the position Manny is in right now. **** 'em.
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I know why divisions are in place , you tell why you think they are ? I believe you dont understand weight and what it means to a fighter .
I understand weight and the process of cutting and rehydrating.


However, if Pac had never went up to 147, I wouldn't have an issue. But he did and now he needs to fight those fighters there if he wants to make those fights.

I held Mayweather and everyone else to the same standard. I'm not going to change my tune just because its Manny Pacquiao.

Had he never went there, fine, but he did in fact beat a fighter at that weight.
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