Bookmark Website  | Free Registration  | The Team
Boxing Champions |  Boxing Schedule |  Boxing Video  |  Boxing History   |  Pound For Pound  | Lounge  | The Wire |  Audio  | Arcade

Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Boxing History
Reply
Thread Navigation

#1
Old 04-26-2009, 06:21 PM
TheGreatA
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Finland
Posts: 14,316
Rep Power: 42 TheGreatA has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatA has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatA has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatA has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatA has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatA has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatA has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatA has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatA has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatA has a reputation beyond reputeTheGreatA has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,000,241,850.86
Bank: 107,138,384,220.11
Total Points: 108,138,626,070.97
To a great poster!! - abosworth great poster. - Melly-Mel For finding the Guzman stream, when nobody else could. - The_Bringer Just wanted to keep the pattern going Machine - danc1984 One of NSBs best contributors - BostonGuy 
7000 posts, congrats!! - JAB5239 To the LinkMaster! - S a m u r a i Respects to a great poster - Gift Of Gab Props on the picture! :lol1: - Spacey1991 Jussi Jääskeläinen - ЯiZО 
For Busting Rafael Benitez aka Slimey Limey - poet682006 To Celebrate The Exposure Of Rafael Benitez aka Slimey Limey - poet682006 thanks for the lesson! - mellow_mood This gift is for the videos you posted on my Tyson/Patterson thread a while back.  I recently noticed you posted some great interview videos of Patterson on the thread which I missed at the time because I didn’t follow up on checking the responses. - Benny Leonard For doing a great Glen Johnson highlight video! - St Lion 
To a great historian - Stoppage Good debate. No hard feelings. - Method Checker HERES TO YOU LEFTY - markbnlv Thanks for sharing your boxing knowledge. - Talisayen No Message - dancovboxer 
Hepatitis C - BattlingNelson World Trade Center Victims and Heroes - Fireworks Safety - MARKBNLV 
Default Georges Carpentier

Rare footage of the Orchid Man Georges Carpentier.

Wild brawl against Battling Siki:





Knockouts:









Fights against Gene Tunney and Jack Dempsey:






Last edited by TheManchine; 04-26-2009 at 06:24 PM.
Reply With Quote
TheGreatA is offline
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
#2
Old 04-26-2009, 08:42 PM
LondonRingRules
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: The Republic of Texas, never hear of Muleshoe?
Age: 65
Posts: 1,640
Rep Power: 13 LondonRingRules has a reputation beyond reputeLondonRingRules has a reputation beyond reputeLondonRingRules has a reputation beyond reputeLondonRingRules has a reputation beyond reputeLondonRingRules has a reputation beyond reputeLondonRingRules has a reputation beyond reputeLondonRingRules has a reputation beyond reputeLondonRingRules has a reputation beyond reputeLondonRingRules has a reputation beyond reputeLondonRingRules has a reputation beyond reputeLondonRingRules has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 65,045.38
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 65,045.38
A new boxing encyclopedia for your collection. Not that you need it! - BattlingNelson 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheManchine View Post
Rare footage of the Orchid Man Georges Carpentier.

Wild brawl against Battling Siki:
** The full fight got pulled for some reason and this put in it's place.

The fight a complete disgrace from top to bottom. An inquiry was held after Siki stripped and suspended, and like most bureaucratic bunglings, they passed on a ruling. Instead Siki signed the rematch contract which he promptly broke by going over to Ireland on St Paddy's day and having the title lifted by McTigue.

Clearly Siki is no more than a big dumb clod, a 10 on those attributes and a 2 on boxing skill, he could throw inside uppercuts, and that's it. Peter Benson's bio claims Siki took the loser's share in advance and he never got more than that. Carp didn't trainfor the "arranged bout" which was being filmed for distribution to French theater as part of a glorious homecoming of the French hero after the Dempsey fight.

Instead, after handling Siki easily, knocking him down several times, wondering why he keeps getting up, he supposedly breaks his power hand, the right. Siki's not going down per script and now Carp is tired and getting beat up, so he butts his way through the last half of the 5th.

Then in the 6th Siki kicks the inside of his knee as he pulls him down and hits him in the back on the way down. So Carp could've been DQed in the 5th, Siki most assuredly should've been DQed in the 6th because Carp is holding his leg up and can't continue. He complains to the ref who rules in his favor. Then the judges overrule the ref, and then the commission suspends and strips Siki.

Siki never had single win over a name or class fighter other than Carp where he got battered. His HOF inclusion and rep based on this single travesty only.

Carp was a very tricky, dangerous, highly unorthodox fighter prone to a little hysteria and acting out when he didn't get his way as the Siki fight shows. He fought well from the outside with his Roy Jones type offense and inside he was a consummate grappler and puncher. Highly underrated where as Siki grossly overrated.

I do sort of feel for Siki as he comes to America where he's lucky to break even on his fights and dives into the bottle. Cut a fine figure in Paris all duded up and walking his lion cubs. His bio tries to portray him in a positive light, but the guy was out getting drunk every night getting into scraps and arguments. No judgement or discipline at all.

Interesting that the Carp fight is the only one he appears to be filmed in. Not a pretty picture of him.

Last edited by LondonRingRules; 04-26-2009 at 08:51 PM.
Reply With Quote
LondonRingRules is offline
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
carpentier, georges

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Privacy Policy - Submit News - Feedback - Site Map - Advertise with Us

Copyright © 2003-2013 BoxingScene LLC All rights reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:34 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.