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Re: Boxing score.
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Just like to give you guys a quick update on how to score fights.
1. Punches to the opponents gloves, elbows, arms, shoulders, back, back of the head, back of the neck, legs etc. DO NO and should not count as scoring blows. No matter what the HBO commentary team says or what judges rob what fighter.
The scoring zone is small and simple: Head, neck (front), chest, naval to the beltline (which SHOULD sit at the waist- I'm looking YOU Oscar).
2. "workrate" is NOT a scoring criteria. It's called EFFECTIVE Aggressiveness. Not "workrate". The only time "workrate" should be used is if one guy is completely not doing ANYTHING AND all the other scoring criteria are exhausted.
3. The scoring criteria are as follows and considered in THIS ORDER:
Professional Boxing is judged on (descriptions taken From Harold Lederman):
A. Clean Punching- A clean punch is one that lands on a scoring area (face or side of head, not including the back of the head; the front and sides of the torso) with the knuckle portion of the glove. In amateur boxing, the scoring portion of the glove is white. Though a professional glove lacks such markings, the scoring portion of the glove is basically the same.
Clean punches will land flush, not glancing or partially blocked by one's opponent. "Slapping" or "backhanding" is not allowed.
B. Effective Aggressiveness- Effective aggression is demonstrated when a fighter presses forward, and in doing so, scores more clean punches, or more damaging blows, than his opponent. If a boxer is a particularly hard puncher, even blows that are not landed particularly clean, but obviously affect his opponent, are given scoring weight.
C.Ring Generalship-The ability to control the pace and style of a fight is ring generalship. For instance, a high volume-punching brawler will attempt to force a "stick and move" boxer into a slugfest. Conversely, the pure boxer will attempt to slow the pace of the fight by keeping his opponent at the end of his jab and use angles and feints in order to set up his heavier punches.
It is imperative that professional judges comprehend each fighter's respective style in order to understand who is controlling the action and demonstrating superior ring generalship.
D.Defense-Probably the most ignored, if not maligned, of the four judging criteria is defense. There have been boxers who were such defensive wizards, such as Willie Pep, or Pernell Whitaker, that it was virtually impossible for judges not to recognize their skill. It is said that Pep once won a round against Jackie Graves in 1946 without landing a single punch. In truth, the featherweight Pep landed a few jabs during that round, but such a story is remarkable only because it is so rare, as defense is so poorly appreciated.
Defense is the ability to avoid punshment. A boxer with greater reach than his opponent may stay on the outside and use his footwork to avoid punches--a style often frowned on by judges. One might stay inside and slip punches. Another option is to block an opponent's punches with one's gloves, arms and shoulders, or the highly skilled fighter may choose to use a combination of defensive techniques, depending on the situation.
4. IF ALL the above options are exhausted you can use "workrate" to decide a score in a fight.
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I am tired of seeing people get this wrong over and over and over again. Any questions please ask me on this thread, and I'll help you clear it up.
Thanks.
Re: Boxing score.
Body:
Just like to give you guys a quick update on how to score fights.
1. Punches to the opponents gloves, elbows, arms, shoulders, back, back of the head, back of the neck, legs etc. DO NO and should not count as scoring blows. No matter what the HBO commentary team says or what judges rob what fighter.
The scoring zone is small and simple: Head, neck (front), chest, naval to the beltline (which SHOULD sit at the waist- I'm looking YOU Oscar).
2. "workrate" is NOT a scoring criteria. It's called EFFECTIVE Aggressiveness. Not "workrate". The only time "workrate" should be used is if one guy is completely not doing ANYTHING AND all the other scoring criteria are exhausted.
3. The scoring criteria are as follows and considered in THIS ORDER:
Professional Boxing is judged on (descriptions taken From Harold Lederman):
A. Clean Punching- A clean punch is one that lands on a scoring area (face or side of head, not including the back of the head; the front and sides of the torso) with the knuckle portion of the glove. In amateur boxing, the scoring portion of the glove is white. Though a professional glove lacks such markings, the scoring portion of the glove is basically the same.
Clean punches will land flush, not glancing or partially blocked by one's opponent. "Slapping" or "backhanding" is not allowed.
B. Effective Aggressiveness- Effective aggression is demonstrated when a fighter presses forward, and in doing so, scores more clean punches, or more damaging blows, than his opponent. If a boxer is a particularly hard puncher, even blows that are not landed particularly clean, but obviously affect his opponent, are given scoring weight.
C.Ring Generalship-The ability to control the pace and style of a fight is ring generalship. For instance, a high volume-punching brawler will attempt to force a "stick and move" boxer into a slugfest. Conversely, the pure boxer will attempt to slow the pace of the fight by keeping his opponent at the end of his jab and use angles and feints in order to set up his heavier punches.
It is imperative that professional judges comprehend each fighter's respective style in order to understand who is controlling the action and demonstrating superior ring generalship.
D.Defense-Probably the most ignored, if not maligned, of the four judging criteria is defense. There have been boxers who were such defensive wizards, such as Willie Pep, or Pernell Whitaker, that it was virtually impossible for judges not to recognize their skill. It is said that Pep once won a round against Jackie Graves in 1946 without landing a single punch. In truth, the featherweight Pep landed a few jabs during that round, but such a story is remarkable only because it is so rare, as defense is so poorly appreciated.
Defense is the ability to avoid punshment. A boxer with greater reach than his opponent may stay on the outside and use his footwork to avoid punches--a style often frowned on by judges. One might stay inside and slip punches. Another option is to block an opponent's punches with one's gloves, arms and shoulders, or the highly skilled fighter may choose to use a combination of defensive techniques, depending on the situation.
4. IF ALL the above options are exhausted you can use "workrate" to decide a score in a fight.
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I am tired of seeing people get this wrong over and over and over again. Any questions please ask me on this thread, and I'll help you clear it up.
Thanks.
you should know that by now.
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